Ah @Hydroptere, I know but I let me find a solution for you then. We will have an official document soon for all the new behaviors (I am sorry for any inconvenience). I re-added the comma behavior week ago, but now I have to remove it for the reason that it causes us many trouble in our Memrise courses. Hope that you understand. In the mean time, this is what we support.
period and slash (; and /) will use to separate different segments.
Seriously, what the hell Memrise. The problem cropped up again with hyphens (/) no less. Stop breaking the freaking site!
Im using Firefox… should I add that using “Webkonsole” for each typing course i’m taking, or is it ok if i’m adding that on my main memrise page? would not be easier for a non-IT person such as myself to add it as userscript in/ with stylish for firefox?
many thanks
Ah @Hydroptere, you only need to add in whenever, you start a session (it could be learning session, review session, …)
We haven’t deployed it yet @kotodama. Sorry, I just implement the new behavior today. Will let all of you know when it is deployed.
It does not matter. You can type it with and without the comma
So this means all existing courses that are using the comma the way it used to be will be broken forever?
This makes no sense. Memrise supported commas for separating alternative answers for YEARS until just two months ago. Many many courses have been made using commas. You cannot expect all the course creators to go back to all of those courses and fix many thousands of items in their database to change to some new system. Especially since a) Memrise has driven away many of our best course creators, and they’re not here anymore to fix their courses, and b) you don’t provide the tools to make large database edits like this easy to do. It would be tedious work taking a very long time.
Are you seriously saying you are intentionally breaking hundreds of user-created courses, permanently, and deliberately?
Thanks for the quick response. Is there any way you guys could roll out these behaviors without always breaking things? Or perhaps maybe have a banner warning on top of the dashboard and forum saying something like from “0 to 3 GMT we’re doing maintenance blah blah blah” Also perhaps telegraphing that there will be changes on the blog or again via a banner notification a couple days in advanced. It wouldn’t be as bad, if it wasn’t always an utter surprise.
Until commas are restored to their old behavior, I literally cannot continue reviewing in over half the courses I’ve been taking on memrise. And now here’s a memrise developer saying they intentionally don’t plan to ever restore it? WTF?
@Hydroptere I don’t think you should have to change your courses. Hopefully the bug will be fixed soon - I was only posting what I was going to do and a possible solution for those who were interested.
I think it would be a good idea - and there may be this already on the site somewhere - for memrise to record what the effects of punctuation are - eg commas versus obliques / what happens in reviewing when there are spaces eg a/b as opposed to a / b. Other things I’ve noticed are that accents can be missed out in a main answer, but not in alternatives. Apostrophes can be missed out too yet both of these can be really important in language learning.
On a fundamental point @hung-phan, could you or one of your colleagues please explain why Memrise is introducing changes that have a significant impact on the operation of our courses without any advance warning?
Memrise encourages the making of user-created courses and people put in many hours of work in creating them and keeping them current. It is not good practice for you to then ‘break’ those courses without warning or explanation. It alienates your course creators and learners alike.
This has been a major PR failing of Memrise for a number of years now.
Edit - Sorry, @kotodama. I seem to have duplicated most of your points as I didn’t see your post until I had made mine.
i suspect @hung-phan does only what his boss(es) told him to do…
is @daniel.zohar still the big boss of devs at memrise? could he please please please explain to us, what it is happening in here?
cos, have you tried the userscript (or Hung) pasted above? I have mine installed as a Chrome TamperMonkey user-script and it fixes both the parenthesis and comma issue.
But at any rate Memrise clearly should not just have introduced this change without having a way to distinguish between courses where comma is used a separator and those where it’s not.
@hung-phan, when i try to review after using the script, it says ”We’re sorry, there was an error. The Memrise team have been notified and are getting on it.” It seems that it accept item as reviewed but doesn’t give points.
Better write a program for yourself, last time it took 9 days to fix the comma-gate! Oh wait but than it worked for full 6 days! LoL