It seems that the plural (the part after the semicolon separator) is not required when typing the answer (neither when learning new words or doing a review), but it IS required when making a multiple selection choice.
You can go anywhere on the course to test this, but it is a little easier to test in ‘Learn’ mode, since the exercises cycle through the word ‘tapping’ option as well as the typing options (whereas in ‘Review’ mode, normally only one option is provided, unless you make a mistake). For example, there are a few cases at this level: http://www.memrise.com/course/47049/5000-words-top-87-sorted-by-frequency/43/garden/learn/
@hung-phan, in this level, there are the following examples:
die Aufmerksamkeit; -en
die Lage; -n
das Schicksal; -e
der Punkt; -e
der Witz; -e
der Unfall; -"e
die Kamera; -s
das Taxi; -s
It should be possible to just type (or select from the ‘tapping’ screen where you have to tap multiple words) just the part up to before the semi-colon, for this to be judged as a correct answer. This now seems to working for typing, but not for tapping.
In the example shown in the screenshot, this should be marked as correct if the ‘enter’ key is pressed (or the ‘Check’ arrow selected), but it is judged now as being incorrect.
FYI, @hung-phan, in the example I gave in the screen shot, it is NOT necessary for the semicolon itself to be tapped for the answer to be accepted. I think that this is correct behaviour, since the separator itself is not part of the required answer. (It is ignored if it is tapped, and is shown in white, compared to the correct words which are shown in green, in the screen which confirms the answer.)
(fortunately I have a user script that overcomes the semi-colons not working, which also worked even with the comma version, but ideally nobody should need to install such a thing)
However, notice now that this course (number 920 apparently) is the one said to be created by Paul_Wilson, and matches the title of this forum thread.
My apologies if I have extended my own confusion to anyone else. (These two courses are very similar, but I chose to do the one at 5000 Words (top 87%) sorted by frequency - by Miłek - Memrise because the words are ordered by frequency of use, and because there is vocalisation of nearly every word.)
I think that the course that @dylan.nicholson.548 has updated is the “sorted by frequency” course (ie, the one I was referring to earlier, and not the one which I see now is the course referred to by this forum thread). I believe that the “5000 German Words” course (not the one sorted by frequency) still has commas and not semicolons.
Right, @misxifRM. I believe that @dylan.nicholson.548 can help you in the meantime for changing that. Additionally, it is a way to use script to only highlight whether a word contains a comma. PM me if you want to help for that course @dylan.nicholson.548 (Thanks a lot).
However, I believe @dylan.nicholson.548’s way will be faster. You can contact him to get the script. I cannot provide you a massive changing script for the reason that it will not good for our software.
Or Hung you could just execute back-end SQL queries for us, which would be a good deal faster and less taxing on the system!
But honestly my script issued maybe 20 extra API calls per minute over 10-15 minutes, which in the context of the load you must be handling all the time is a drop in the ocean.
Hi @dylan.nicholson.548, that will require permission and prioritization from the team. I cannot make decision on my own, however, let me ask for you. Hope that it will not be destructive. I am not promising it will be accepted though.
I think the problem with comma using as separator is that there are some situations we cannot define whether people use it as separator or just a normal punctuation of sentence. For example,
I met Harry, we went for a swim together, and afterwards Harry went home
Additionally, we add more feature to ; and / to support the permutations. You can type many variations of it. For example, in typing test, given a sentence like xxx ; yyy ; zzz you can type
Sorry Robert - will add you now. Btw I’ve not done any practice the past couple of days but with the change to semi-colons, does this mean they HAVE to be entered? Disaster for me because I’ve 4 years of practising with commas
I really must read these posts more carefully – the commas are being changed on another course altogether!
Robert - please don’t change the commas to semi-colons! The best method I think for this course would be to go into edit mode and create an alternative solution without the plural. I’ve done it for der Tag so you can see what I mean.
Go into Edit, chose Database (german) Then enter Tag. If you run the cursor over the entry you’ll get a little window saying ‘Alt’. Clicking on that brings up boxes to enter alternatives/synonyms. If you put an underscore (_) in front of the word it doesn’t appear on the page when practising - just stops things getting cluttered up. thanks Elizabeth
Asking you this in private as it’s my own course and nobody else seems to be doing it, but I have an issue (which I’ve seen before with other courses) where there’s discrepancy between how many words the dashboard thinks are in the course and that I’ve learnt, vs how many there actually are:
There are actually 1025 words and I’ve learned 1017 of them, but the dashboard says I’ve learned 1000/1052. At a couple of points the “Learn” button was available even though I’d technically learned all the words (but have since added more).
