Coming Soon - New Ranks

children, cats and puppies and elefants and dolphins andandand are “cute”, since when are octopus and poisonous jellyfish cute? what is this here? “cartoon network” or a learning site?

i’ve just visited the site of the Khan academy, for comparison… failed to see any idiotically looking avatars… saw mountains, leaves etc

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@Hydroptere - On Khan’s leaf avatar page, click on the right arrow to scroll through the selectable avatar options. I get that you don’t approve of such silliness, but certainly Khan Academy uses earned cute atavars.

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On Khan, students are able to select their avatar, and points earned unlock additional options. @Hydroptere could select and stay with a leaf. Another student might enjoy celebrating their progress through this avatar sequence:

I’m not saying that Memrise should have that. Just responding to the incorrect statement that Khan Academy doesn’t include such cuteness.

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I think the switch of icons is fine, I don’t mind it. But what I don’t care for is how they aren’t fixing the massive gap issue once you get into the tens of millions of points but still have to grind for so long to get to a new rank. Maybe a way to remedy this is that once you hit a million points, then the next rank is just 1 mill away, then after that 2 mill away, then after that 3 mill away, then 4 then 5 then so on and so forth. That way there is still a gap that is growing but it’s not growing at an absurd rate. So my idea meshed into the new levels system would look like:

Level 1 - 0
Level 2 - 1 000
Level 3 - 5 000
Level 4 - 10 000
Level 5 - 25 000
Level 6 - 50 000
Level 7 - 75 000
Level 8 - 100 000
Level 9 - 150 000
Level 10 - 200 000
Level 11 - 250 000
Level 12 - 500 000
Level 13 - 1 000 000

  • 1 million =
    Level 14 - 2 000 000
  • 2 million =
    Level 15 - 4 000 000
  • 3 million =
    Level 16 - 7 000 000
  • 4 million =
    Level 17 - 11 000 000
  • 5 million =
    Level 18 - 16 000 000
  • 6 million =
    Level 19 - 22 000 000
  • 7 million =
    Level 20 - 29 000 000
  • 8 million =
    Level 21 - 37 000 000
  • 9 million =
    Level 22 - 46 000 000
  • 10 million =
    Level 23 - 56 000 000
  • 11 million =
    Level 24 - 67 000 000
    +12 million =
    Level 25 - 79 000 000
  • 13 million =
    Level 26 - 92 000 000
    +14 million =
    Level 27 - 106 000 000
  • 15 million =
    Level 28 - 121 000 000
  • 16 million =
    Level 29 - 137 000 000
    +17 million =
    Level 30 - 154 000 000

and so on and forth, to infinity and beyond.

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Yes, good rank/point suggestion. Bravo!

The basic consensus is:

  • 18 levels are simply not enough (neither from the old ranks nor the new
    intended level system)

  • 100.000.000 mio points should NOT be the only max level, as there are some Overlords out there already who already gained more than 100 mio. (either there could be e.g ~2-3 top bonus ranks or not any hard level limit at all)

  • your current earned points status should make it possible to reach a new rank/level in a realistic time frame (it does e.g not help one’s collected 3,3 mio. points that ranks are getting lowered (2mio.) and the next reachable rank (5mio). is getting raised)

Icons:

  • rank icons which grow steadily are not a bad idea (at least a few people agreed on that)

  • different user selectable icons from different types (styles) / groups would be a very nice thing (every user has his own liking)

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anyhow, I doubt that changing the avatar to alien pink lobster (learning earthly mandarin) and removing easy to remember ranks was the most pressing matter of memrise, or what it will boost its market presence… or do you?

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Some ideas:

  • Personal setting the proportion of tapping/typing tests. When course creators need to create different “no typing” tests, and other part of users need “all typing” userscript, that’s clearly a sign this needs to be configured
  • Personalising learning algorithm. I just can’t believe the same intervals are optimal for everyone
  • Search in learned words
  • Feedback for course creators right in the course? Post change requests, make statistics of words with the highest error rate, maybe the most common mistakes?
  • More data in course search. More filter criteria. How many people finish a course not just start it? Search for similar courses
  • Auto-ignore duplicates
  • Option to translate courses. Or personally override items. Sometimes I want to add a clarification to myself in my language, because it is more accurate than the English one. Why can’t we translate the same courses to more languages without copying he course itself?
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I don’t mind the changes; it’s always refreshing. Especially if it is a cute little alien abomination.

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so in your opinion changes are always good, any changes

hm, did you consider moving to the Atacama? or visiting Erdogan to tell him one or two words? it is about change, after all

(btw, what an horrible lacking any inspiration and talent abomination you posted here… for this kind of stuff one needs a product managger nowadays? some years ago this was some accidental product of 3 years old messing with colours…)

you seem kinda emo…
there will be a point in your life when you mature, relax, smile, and take things more easy. Why not try it now?:grinning:

Hydroptere - so, you’ve made it perfectly clear that you don’t like the new decoration scheme. Ok, got it. But what’s the big deal? If they’ve added a feature that you feel is for children, why not just ignore it? Does it really interfere with your learning? Why insult learners who find it refreshing?

You’re the one who wanted to compare this with Khan Academy features. Well, if that’s how you’re thinking, consider this advice from their site:

"5) What’s the point?

You’re an adult. You are here because you wish to learn, and you probably do not need the extra motivation of the point, badges and game mechanics. Don’t let them become an obstacle to learning what you want, and choosing your own path to knowledge."

https://khanacademy.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203149680-I-don-t-want-mastery-and-badges-I-want-to-do-math-my-way

You can advocate for continued support for course-creators and mems, or urge the development of advanced learning features that are currently missing from the site. Memrise is big enough to have a marketing department AND a development group AND a bug repair department. It’s not like the art department is doing this instead of writing software.

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The ranks are not a big issue for me and the proposed change will not affect my learning in any negative way.
If anything I think an update of the images would be a small improvement.

Having just read the first post above and tried out the Android App (see [App & Site Feedback] Differences between the WEB version and an APP version) I think there is a good case for two MemRise versions.

  • The Space App - which has evolved over the last two years or so, with all the ‘features’ and gizmos and

  • The original web version with planting, ranks, multimedia levels etc as experienced on the web several years ago, when keen users created a whole host of language and non-language courses to enhance the user’s experience.

What about it @joshua & @lurkmoophy ?

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there are two versions: free and paid

Here is some reading (suggestions from Users and Course Creators/ Contributors) that I hope the MemRise team (Cc @lurkmoophy) has read and considered them when thinking about updates:

Cc @ashleopio @Bergeton @Thomas.Heiss see above thread

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Incidentally I see am still a MemBassador (not a blobby creature).

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@DW7 ~ I suspect that is because the change has only been made to the Android app at this point (as the version number in the thread below mentioning them is an Android version number). It is not on the iOS app or web version ~ yet. I would assume they will follow shortly.

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lucky you… i’m just Agent on my Android app

How sad - not even a “Star Agent”? (Suggestion to @lurkmoophy).

PS So am I on the app. Check the web version (while you can still see you are your Meminence!).

@DW7 ; @Atikker ; ~ I hope all is well with both of you.

I thought the new ranks were just forms of numeric levels (i.e. “Level 1”, “Level 2”, etc…) all based on point thresholds. Where does the term “Agent” come from ?