Review broken again?

No 4 has been happening to me for a couple of weeks. Also using Firefox.

HAHA. WOW. See. This is why you’re the programmer, and I’m merely someone who uses your scripts. (Insert sound of palm hitting forehead.) I turned it off, and now the sessions are loading.

To be determined if I’m having the rest of the issues here, and with my huge backlog, not going to be fun if the items aren’t removed from reviewing queue.

Sorry about this… Reviews do still work for individual courses, it’s just that sometimes items which are meant to be large are displayed small, and in addition reviewing multiple courses of the same subject does not work.

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Well, I’ve started to review, and I can at least now add my commentary on some errors.

  1. The problem still stands if you click on “see answer” after getting the word/sentence correct, it will bring the item back up for review.

  2. At least in Japanese (can’t comment on author non-Roman alphabets), if say the answer were for the kanji of something, and you typed in the hiragana/katakana instead, it would say please retype with kanji. Now, it just marks me wrong.

Yes, this (nr.2)! I thought I was seeing things but I checked once more and this is definitly a problem.

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Hi guys,
We just fixed:

We’ll keep on working on the rest of the problems and issue another release tomorrow.

Anything else comes up please do let us know.
Apologies and thanks for your cooperation.

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@cooljingle, don’t know if it’s worth updating now if there’s going to be a fix tomorrow, but the all-typing isn’t working for audio prompts. As in, I have a course where it plays audio, and I have to type the sentence spoken. Now the course is all multiple choice.

In the course edit window there is a drop down menu to listen to the audio fragments. The audio from the database is playing normally. But all the audio I’ve spent hours uploading is inaudible. Which is really impractical when you want to check and edit entries.
The same audio does work during review and preview.

Much better now. However, when reviewing difficult words (by course), the last one won’t go away. I’ve done it 6 times now and it still tells me I have 1 (the same) outstanding word. I get 175 points each time so I could be top of the leader board if I carry on.

silverbear it’s probably “starred”. If you click the star next to the word when seeing it, it’ll be removed from your difficult words

Thanks @duaal we’ll look into that asap

After removing the lightening, it still displayed as difficult word & reported an error when I tried to test it. But as soon as other words came up for review in the same course and I cleared them, it went away. Thanks Daniel.

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Yeah looks like a lot of changes were made, I think most if not all my scripts may be affected. Could take a while to fix them all.

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Yeah, David said the changes were quite substantial.

@daniel.zohar, anyway we could get an update notebook? What exactly was changed?

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We’re working on improving our algorithm, something that required substantial changes to the structure of learning sessions over the last few months. We try to minimize the impact and disruption as much as we can.
I’m not sure what your “scripts” are doing but it’d be hard to expect for us to update the community every time we change some HTML / JS.

Could you give more background into what you’re trying to achieve with those scripts?

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I have a script that makes it so I have to type everything. I’m not a fan of multiple-choice reviewing.

Basically, the issue I’m having is some of my courses have sentences read in Japanese, and I’d use the script to type the sentences, rather than matching them with multiple choice. Additionally, I can’t even check to see if I’m translating in my head correctly from Japanese-English because if I select" see answer" after getting sentences correct, memrise marks me wrong now. (This has been mentioned numerous times in the thread.)

I don’t think you need to update us on every single change, if they are little ones. But as been expressed in the thread, people have had issues with the update since 25 days ago, and the staff hasn’t been that vocal about our comments. I’m glad you’re here today addressing the issues, but I fail to see why no one responded to us 15 days ago… 5 days ago?

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Aside from some of the problems I’ve already seen mentioned after scrolling briefly, the font is also a lot smaller than it should be in some courses. Kanji, for example, are showing up a lot smaller than they did before.

I’m late to this, but I have some more things to add that I’ve noticed so far:

1: When planting a level of fifteen items all at once, as I have been every day for the past couple months, I found that it’s introducing the items much more quickly than before. Previously, it would introduce them very gradually; introduce the first two, testing me a couple times on those, introduce the third, test me on that, along with the first two, before moving onto the fourth, etc. Now it’s almost pouring them all out at once. There are still tests between (most of) them, but nowhere near as many as before, and I was actually seeing some introduced back to back late in the session. This makes it very difficult to keep up with the learning session for me, as I’m being given more items to juggle before I’ve properly grasped the previous ones.

2: Audio questions are getting thrown into the session, despite “Audio mode” being disabled for the course.

3: Audio doesn’t seem to play in the database editor when hovering over the speaker icon. It still seems to function when using the course though.

4: The item preview page has a couple of visual issues. See screenshot:

The ‘kana’ text is supposed to be much larger, and I don’t think the speaker icons were overlapping with that line before. I don’t really care about the latter (just pointing it out), but the former makes it pretty hard to read what I’m learning.

5: The color-coded question marks shown for tests all seem to be the same purple color. I have been relying on these quite a bit to easily distinguish between the different testing directions in my courses, and have been making sure that they all match up for each of the courses that I create, so this is pretty disorienting.

6: This was happening prior to today, but I think it’s a recent issue. When using ‘preview’ in a level, the items seem to show in a random order, rather than from start to finish.

Maybe some of these are deliberate changes, but I have no way of knowing. I’ll post more if I find more. Progress seems to be registering on my end, at least. Reviewed items are staying reviewed, and learned items are showing as learned. We appreciate the updates!

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To add on to your last point, this is an addendum to what I was getting at, @daniel.zohar. “Maybe some of these are deliberate changes, but I have no way of knowing.” If you guys don’t post a logbook of changes, how are we to know if these are purposeful changes or errors? Why are we, the users, the ones having to bring them up?

Also, I still have the issue wherein if I type hiragana or katakana when the answer wants “common Japanese” (that is, kanji), I’m marked wrong now, wherein before it’d prompt you to retype in common Japanese. This is a VERY bad change (if it is, indeed, one and not a bug).

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@daniel.zohar

In response to you saying that the algorithm is being worked on, could you discuss this a bit more? I, as well as some others purposely only use the web version because the algorithm seemed different in the app. I tested this over some months and it ended up as the words I learned during that testing phase being much less solid in my mind. Is work being done to make the website algorithm more like the app? That’s kind of important to me and I’d really appreciate any feedback you have on that.

Also, just wanted to echo @TinyCaterpillar that despite audio tests being switched off (on the web page), they are still being inserted into learning sessions and reviews. Even after clicking the “do not show audio tests for 30 minutes” button, the very next question was an audio question. I’m currently having to answer two to three questions, end the session when an audio question appears, and then resume again.

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