New layout feedback thread |CIVIL DISCUSSION|

Maar nee, Nederlands is niet nutteloos, toch? :crazy_face:

2 Likes

I also note that the emotions they ascribe to the shade closest to Memrise’s yellow are “depressing, cynical, melancholy.” Sort of says it all.

2 Likes

I hate the new design and I’ve replied to several threads about it in my agitation. Maybe not my finest hour, but I’m that piqued.

But. I also recognize how easy it is to get swept along by the tide of outrage, and that the people most likely to comment are those that feel strong negative emotion. I hated the “crowns” in Duolingo when they were first introduced, but was able to get reconciled to them in time, partially because I read some positive feedback about them in the Duo forums that helped me see the change differently.

So, I am asking in true sincerity - is there anyone out there, any Memrise users, who actually do like and prefer the new design? Anyone who prefers it or thinks it’s a good idea? I would really like to hear the positives, if there are any.

4 Likes

What I really find sad is that I’ve read how an User complained about the colours and how much it hurts in the eyes in an darker learning atmosphere one month ago and he was told that the Memrise Team would think about how to make it better. And still they rolled out this design without even an option of a darker background! If a company does completely ignore their customers than it’s not surprising for the customers turning their back on them.

Cancelled my subscription this morning, because as I said it’s no fun to learn with this App at the moment and hurts my eyes when learning in the evening as usual.

I refresh if they make changes like :

  • encouraging colours and Design ( what’s with the sad flowers that don’t seem to bloom anymore ?)
  • fixing the problems with the sound (can’t here any words by pushing the buttons most of the time)
  • darker background and layout that allows learning in the evenings
4 Likes

My view is that colors and logos are secondary to adding new language learning tools and fixing bugs. The priorities are backwards.

4 Likes

Copied it for you. Do tell if you need help with the translation.

2 Likes

I’ve seen one or two posters claiming to like it.
At least they’ve now got rid those bizarro blobs behind the usernames, which was definitely the most amateurish aspect (but the course icons are still weirdly misshapen).

2 Likes

Yes. Maybe I am the only one, but I find the new color scheme to be fine. A refreshing change. I especially like the new square logo.

Having odd blobs instead of perfect circles was jarring for, oh, about an hour? After that, it started to look, well, comfy.

1 Like

Here is the statement about being a “bit-more-grown-up”.

Memrsie%20App%20description%20CROPPED

Cc @Olaf.Rabbachin

4 Likes

I agree with others that the new design looks childish.

But I really hate the garish, bright colors. They are hard on my not so young eyes, and I am having trouble with them if the ambient lighting isn’t just right.

Dark colors for fonts and icons on a light bacground and vice versa are easier to read. Please consider an optional alternate color scheme or some sort of dark mode.

Also, I liked the color coding of the different types of lessons. I didn’t know I liked that until it was gone and missed being able to easily see whether I was reviewing words, leaning new, or going to speed review.

I love Memrise and have been using it for two languages, but this redesign makes me question if I want to renew my annual subscription. Yes, it really is that bad for me.

4 Likes

Out of curiosity I looked up the Brighton Hill Community School and their yellow is actually a much more cheerful daffodil yellow. If they had used a muted daffodil yellow for the site it would have been much less awful than the mustard colour they went with.

5 Likes

Mustard tastes wonderful. It’s easily my least favourite colour. I feel sick looking at the pages now. This dreary colour is a real test of my commitment to learning. Is that the intention? I also find the icons more difficult to see. I have to think really hard to assess whether I am due to water my plants, or am simply being offered the opportunity to add extra water. As I only water when it is needed, please help me to save the planet by improving the ease of reading the icons.

4 Likes

Perhaps the egg theme on the app icon is to indicate the start of life (ie growing) but a nice seed would be more appropriate and in keeping with the planting and flowering theme, which I’m pleased seems to have been kept from the very start. :slight_smile:

egg

Perhaps a whole egg or seed is better?

egg%20whole

[ PS perhaps a seed with the hexagonal colour logo superimposed? ]

PS MemRise%20Hexagon
.

The MemRise full-grown flower would also be appropriate :sunflower:

MemRise%20level%20flower

[ PS again, perhaps the hexagonal colour logo superimposed on the plant pot? ]

Cc @edcooke


PPS
Perhaps the above suggested icons could be used for the Decks web and Decks App when it’s finally launched (please).



PPPS

Great news the ‘egg’ has been dropped and a more logical icon has replaced it.

8 Likes

I did the same, and I have to agree. Brighton’s yellow is cheery and calmly energetic (if that makes any sense).

I’m also in the camp that gets headaches. I made my first ever tweet just trying to get someone to take it seriously.

I don’t know. I guess my next step is to talk to Apple about what happens when an app you recently paid a year-long subscription for becomes unusable. Like, I don’t want a refund for the time I’ve used, and I’m even willing to pay a service fee for the hassle of canceling. I’m honestly waiting because I want to give these guys a chance to fix it. I don’t want to be a jerk, and sometimes things go horribly wrong. I’ll also gladly sign up again if it becomes useable. But right now I feel like I’ve just lit decent amount of money on fire.

Memrise: Please don’t give into the sunk cost fallacy. You spent a lot of money on this, I’m sure. It hurts to throw a bunch of money at something and have it be a total waste. But don’t hold onto this new design so tightly just because you put time and money into it. At a bare minimum, please give people a choice while you rework this new design.

Live and learn. It’ll be funny someday. I promise.

4 Likes

I like the idea of using the flower as a memrise icon. That’s a great suggestion!

3 Likes

It’s kind of interesting that of all the themes and mascots Memrise has gone through, the original garden and flower was the most original and inspiring compared with space creatures and rockets and who knows what’s next. All that energy and money could have been spent on writing new language learning tools and fixing bugs, but that’s just my opinion.

15 Likes

Yeah, I know what you mean. When they posted that retrospective of all of their designs, I really thought the first was the best.

Metaphorically it makes sense too. To learn a language, you have to tend to it every day.

Ah well. I’m doing my best to use the decks website, but that’s not as easy as using the app, and limits where I can use it.

4 Likes

Well maybe I’m a one off, but I feel this new design is great… the app on Android is working better and frankly I don’t want to see the old one back. It’s like anything, we have to get used to it… I’ve been using it a week and I love it…

2 Likes

The app still looking unpolished and unfinished. The main screen is bad, to much white and yellow. People is complaining most about that.
Overall the idea (of new design) is good but the implementation is really bad. What do you think about that?

Working better in what sense?
If by working better you mean less crashes and bugs, It has nothing to do with design. They could have make it work better with the old design, if they wanted.

4 Likes

Yeah very true. I’m doing mandarin level 3 and before it was getting too easy, all.of a sudden it seems harder and I have to concentrate more on the answers. Might be the colour system, might be the system has just been updated…

2 Likes