Did something change with the typed responses?

Hey,

Today when I came to review my French vocabulary, as soon as I typed the right answer, but before pressing enter, the website already counted what I typed as correct. Is this a change to the website? Some bug? A setting on the side of the user? Or on the side of the course (creator)?

Whatever the cause, I don’t like it, as it sometimes counts things as correct unjustly. It counted “une part” as correct before I got through mistakenly writing “une partie”, for example. And if I get something wrong, I already know ahead of time, and it makes me want to not press enter and think instead for what the answer might be—a form of feedback I wouldn’t get if I used the language in real life, either. (So far I have been forcing myself still to press enter so that the algorithm gets accurate information about how well I know a word, but it’s frustrating to be put into the position where the user has to worry about such things.)

Is there a way to get rid of this?

Thanks in advance!

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Maybe the course creator made ‘une part’ an alternative response to ‘une partie’, causing the website to interpret the answer as correct before you press enter. I think you may be able to check this when you learn a new word or get a word wrong. Hope I helped!

Thank you, but that’s not quite what I meant. The actual word was “une part”, and presumably “une partie” would have been wrong. However, I didn’t get that far typing it, because it already accepted it when I typed “une part”. Previously, I would have had to press enter before the website would check what I wrote, so that I would have gotten all the way to “une partie”, then pressed enter and gotten it counted as wrong. However, because now the enter no longer seems to be necessary, it does not allow me to get that far.

So it’s not that the word has a different accepted response, the issue rather is that hitting enter is no longer necessary.

Still appreciate your reply :slight_smile:

It’s from the update today. We now have “auto-accept” scripts installed.

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I see! So is there a way to turn it off somehow?

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I agree with @VincentOostelbos; it’s nice to save a keystroke (don’t have to hit Enter to check answer), but it can lead to accepting the right answer while heading for what would have been a wrong answer). Sure it’s “nice” to get a right answer when you don’t deserve it, but I want to be harder on myself than that.

I hope there’s a way to turn this on or off (user-selectable).

I realize this makes the browser platform work more like the iOS (and Android, presumably) versions, but this was one of the reasons I prefered the browser platform over the apps.

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Yes, and conversely, it just feels bad to have to manually give yourself a wrong answer when you type what you thought it was but it isn’t accepted automatically, so you already know it’s wrong.

And I am with you exactly: this is precisely (part of) why I like the web version and don’t use the app.

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We had this issue in September when they installed it. They revoked the “auto-accept” but brought it back today.

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That is a real shame. I wonder if it really is too much trouble to make this a client-side setting for users. If the feedback was already so mixed back then, you’d think that’d be the obvious solution.

Another example of my issue: I always have great trouble remembering whether a French word I am learning is masculine or feminine. I may be certain what the word itself is, but not sure whether to put “un” or “une”. If I now put in one and it doesn’t get accepted, I already know it has to be the other one. As I already said, I’m not such a person, but many people would presumably be inclined to just change the article and put in the “e” after “un” after all. (In my case, this issue might not show up, but instead it’s just demotivating having to explicitly give yourself a wrong answer.)

I imagine that would not at all be a “net improvement for [our] learning experience”, as it messes with the algorithm, right? It is, after all, based on how often we get our answers right or wrong, which normally (but not so much with this system) would be reflective of how well we actually know the questions.

Thank you for letting us know!

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I came to the forum today after doing my German lesson to complain that my answers were being accepted without me clicking on the arrow, and to ask that the program be put back to the way it was yesterday. I’m glad I found you and others commenting on the change already. I don’t like the change because it make things go so fast that I cannot contemplate my answer and think about what I am doing. As a language learner, I need time to learn, or memorize, what I’m doing by thinking about the answer and committing it to memory, e.g. “I put der (die, or das) what is the ending of the noun that might help me decide in the future, are there any other clues that can help me remember the article. I’m having trouble remembering the correct spelling of this word. I got the word correct this time, let me study the word for a few seconds, to reinforce the correct spelling in my head.” These important seconds of reinforcing the correct word, sentence structure, articles, spelling etc. have been taken away from us. Please, Memrise, get rid of auto-accept and change the lessons back to the way they were yesterday.

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@VincentOostelbos Vincent, how do you send a link from one forum to another?

This is horrible because it doesn’t seem to work on all words so it’s hard to get into a rhythm when some need enter and others don’t.

Please provide an option to disable it.

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The APP wins and its way is being forced onto the website.

The testing on the website has gone from recall tests to a scrambled word game.

Auto-accepted answers have practically killed off Pinyin testing. Which makes most of my courses redundant.

And also where are the memes? When you make an error they no longer appear.

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This is terrible. When I need to type a word in Korean, all the syllables appear below the text box mixed in with some wrong answers. I need to divert my vision to avoid getting hints.

Then when I type in the correct answer, Memrise corrects it before I hit enter, which gives me a clue when I get it wrong.

I don’t want easy mode. It will harm my learning.

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post your opinions in here please…

@Hydroptere, How do you do links? I tried to make a link in another forum that was discussing this topic but couldn’t figure out how to do it.

I have also noticed this with my Korean lessons. On top of it giving away hints and correcting my mistakes for me, the new auto-enter feels awkward. In addition to that, I must force myself to keep my eyes above the new syllable box or else it feels like “cheating.” I disabled the tapping/jumbled option in my learning settings but the boxes persist.

I dislike this change and haven’t finished my lessons yet. I’m hoping for a fix or change before I continue.

Go to the other topic you want to have linked, copy its url (for specific posts you can right-click the notification that says how old a post is, like “3h”, at the top right of the post) and paste it as its own line in a post on another topic or post to link it.

Really disappointed that this has come back. I came to the forum after doing my fist set of words this morning. I want to actually learn to he words, and this change makes it much more difficult. Its a unfortunate import from the app – its why I don’t use the app. I am fine with it being default, but please just allow us to turn it off!

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I went to the discussion that I wanted to link to another discussion and left clicked the number or hours it had been displayed. Then, I went to the discussion to which i wanted to give the link and right clicked and then clicked “paste”. Instead of the link showing, what I did copied the whole comment that was made by Bea Trisy. What did I do wrong?