[Course Forum] 5000 Important words in Greek

G’day again.

Post-rewrite primary definition dupe issue: For ‘food’, we’ve got φαγητό in Level 31 and τροφή in Level 17.

Can you please differentiate the primaries or cross-alt?

Also - sorry for being so pedantic! - Level 37 only has 24 words rather than 25.

άντρας, Level 39. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember learning this elsewhere as άνδρας. I’ve Googled and it seems to be be one of those words like εννέα/εννία or οκτώ/οχτώ where both versions are in common use. If so, would it be possible to have άνδρας as an Alt?

If my memory/spelling is off, please let me know!

ό, τι, Level 52. I think this gets marked as incorrect unless a space is used - would it be possible to as Alt ό,τι without a space?

No. Is is meant to be written that way: ό, τι - you wouldn’t ever follow a comma in English without a space, right? Same thing here.

Ah, right, no worries. Spaced it is then!

You know, I’d say that it’s only correct without the space because that comma symbol does not represent an actual comma. It’s more of a hack :slight_smile: - https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ό,τι

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I love this explanation: “an otherwise outdated form of the Greek comma used as a disambiguating interpunct symbol—in order to differentiate this term from ότι ‎(óti).”

A “disambiguating interpunct”? That’s a new one on me. But, I’ve dispatched an inquiry to my teacher just now, let’s see what she says.

Well, turns out I was incorrect! Imagine? :slight_smile:

When I asked about “ό,τι” ή “ό, τι”, the answer was: “It doesn’t matter, The comma is what matters, not the space.”

So, I have edited the level so that either is accepted as correct!

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Thanks Neal. Disambiguating interpuncts are all pretty new to me too!

ο, Level 45, and το, Level 48.

When you’ve got a mo, would it be possible to amend the primaries to ‘The (neuter)’ and ‘The (masculine)’?

It’s a bit embarrassing getting marked incorrectly for something so simple! :wink:

I’d just remove the articles and possibly pronouns altogether. In my opinion they add no value since we can probably agree that people who use this course are already familiar with extreme basics of Greek - articles and pronouns are pretty much the step right after learning the alphabet after all.

I dunno - I’m just a beginner, but I still struggle a bit over when to use nominative, accusative or genitive! Pronouns I really don’t mind having in there and seeing every now and then.

http://www.memrise.com/course/49744/beginners-greek-grammar-01-personal-pronouns/ is a nice little course for drilling those btw.

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At first I didn’t understand why this is an issue. The attributes for ‘ο’ and ‘το’ already define the parts of speech as articles and the respective gender as m. and n. But, I suppose if the point is during testing (if you don’t see the attributes) when asked for ‘the’ it would be a 50/50 shot at being wrong (or right). So, I added (m.) and (n.) respectively.

I’m not in favor of removing anything unless it is either inaccurate or obsolete.

Many thanks for that Neal, much appreciated. Yes, that’s exactly the reason why, too.

Howdy Neal, hope all is well.

Can you please check the setup of Level 70? I’m not quite sure exactly what’s wrong as I’ve never created a course before.

Basically, I have learnt all words, but the level shows as incomplete and ‘Continue Learning’ is still an option.

If I click on Continue Learning, I get a ‘Loading learning session’ splash screen, but it times out and goes back to the level after a few seconds.

I’ve tried quitting and restarting the level, to no effect.

For what it’s worth, there are actually only 24 words displaying in the level (despite it saying 25), so it’s almost like one’s ‘trapped’ somewhere in between having been created and fully published.

Thank you!

Also, Greek dupe issue: τσιγκούνης appears to be in the course twice, in Levels 17 and 74.

εξακολουθητικός μέλλοντας, Level 72.

The audio is reversed in order, ie ‘μέλλοντας εξακολουθητικός’. This is in line with the other future tenses, and seems to be used in addition to the primary ordering.

Additionally, the Alt appears to exactly the same as the primary. Just wondering if the Alt is meant to be μέλλοντας εξακολουθητικός?

Either way, if μέλλοντας εξακολουθητικός is an acceptable ordering, would it be OK to Alt it?

κατηγόρημα, Level 73. Requires the article to be marked correctly; could you please Alt without το?

Same goes for for κλίμα, υποκείμενο, ομόφωνο and ετυμολογία, also in Level 73 - all get marked as incorrect without articles.