[Course Forum] 5000 Important words in Greek

New Levels recently added. 2,865 words (and growing). Here is the Excel worksheet with the latest content up-to-date with the course:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3-ATVs8f9pISmx6TFoydUJkX1U

There are many more words slated to be added over time, see the ‘cognates’ and ‘building block’ tabs in the worksheet. Other words are also added as they come up in my personal study. If anyone wants to suggest words they think should be here but haven’t seen or learned, post them here and I’ll put them at the top of the list!

My goodness Neal, awesome work!

I haven’t yet learnt any of the recent additions, but I came across a couple of existing things this morning - έγχορδα Level 32 and περιεχόμενο Level 77 - both could do with unarticled Alts.

Also, I had a query which I was wondering whether you (or anyone else reading) might be able to able to help with.

So, when we’ve got a noun ‘of’ another noun, the originating noun is given in genitive, ie:

η γλώσσα του σώματος
η επέτειος του όχι
τα εγκλήματα του πολέμου
η ελευθερία λόγου
ο αριθμός τηλεφώνου
ο αριθμός ταυτότητας
ο δείκτης νοημοσύνης

But… sometimes the του/της gets inserted in the middle, and sometimes it doesn’t. Is there any logic or pattern behind this, or is it something else that ‘just is’?

Great, thanks!

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έγχορδα and περιεχόμενο
[/quote] - both are fixed.

I asked my teacher your question:

"Yes, there is a reason why the article is inserted or omitted.

There is always a relation between the two nouns: Το βιβλίο του Γιώργου: in this case, the genitive determines (or specifies) the person that has the book. The article cannot be omitted. You must analyze the sentence in order to see the use of the genitive, for example in the sentence τα εγκλήματα του πολέμου the genitive shows the cause (the crimes that took place because of the war). In this phrase though, the article could be omitted.
In short, the presence of the article is related to the function of the genitive. In my opinion, the best way to learn this is by memorizing standard expressions: it’s always η επέτειος του Όχι and not η επέτειος Όχι."

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Thanks for that Neal, hugely appreciated.

So there is sometimes a bit of a rule, but not always, and it’s best just to memorise - ie, it ‘just is’. :wink:

Thought that might have been the case. Drove myself mad when I first started learning Greek and was trying to find patterns in gendering before realising that there’s not really that much rhyme or reason to it.

As language learners we often have to accept that it is just the way it works. Imagine trying to explain English spelling to foreign learners. It is enigmatic to natives and it took a lot of rote memorization!

Hello Neal, hope all is well. When you get a mo, could you please add an unarticled alt for διάλογος in Level 87? Many thanks!

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διάλογος [/quote] - unarticulated! :slight_smile:

We are now at 2,942 words, and continuing to grow! I’ve added some of the words from Building Blocks. Also, I’ve been adding quite a few vocab words about food. Will add more over the next couple of days.

Many thanks Neal! I’ve only had time for a few new words here and there, but have almost finished the Duo tree, at which point I’ll get cracking in earnest on your new additions.

Hey Neal, just a small one. When you get a mo, can you please replace the audio for ελίσσομαι, Level 21?

I think the audio is currently ελισσόμενος (adj). The correct audio’s here:

http://forvo.com/word/ελίσσομαι/#el

Thank you!

  • audio replaced, funny that no one has noticed before now? Or people just don’t bother to report problems.

Many thanks Neal.

I actually noticed it a long, long time ago, and in a weird way, it actually helped me to remember the word properly, as I knew it was wrong. So I didn’t report it. But my wife’s doing the course and it’s bugging her :wink:

Also, just another small one: μινόρε, Level 99, is listed as an adjective instead of a noun.

Thanks again for all your work.

Greek dupe issue: we’ve got μέτριο in Level 95 and μέτριος in Level 103 (both as adjectives, moderate/average).

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μινόρε
[/quote] - OK, both μινόρε and ματζόρε are nouns, f. but note that they are both actually indeclinable adjectives that act as feminine nouns: επίθ άκλ ως ουσ θηλ

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μέτριο in Level 95
[/quote] - removed and replaced with “φτιάχνω γλυκό

Some more new Levels have just been added. We just reached the 3,031 mark!

A few words have been moved between Levels to try to group a few logical things together. You may notice that Levels that used to be complete, no longer are :slight_smile:

Thank you!

You’re welcome. BTW I’ve added a few more things from Building Block, although some are being collapsed together, ex: μέχρι (μέχρι, ώσπου, έως, ωσότου, ίσαμε) and its equivalents. Also, note that μπα is really not ‘wow’ in English, but rather ‘nah’ or ‘bah’, a negative expression (interjection): Είναι θυμωμένη μαζί μου;- Μπα.

That’s good to know - I’ve changed it, ta.

Hi! On level 62, υπόσχεση doesn’t have an article for whatever reason.

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υπόσχεση
[/quote] - thanks, article added.