Brilliant, thanks Do you have any idea when it might be fixed please?? Thanks again
Any news about the resolution of this situation?
Iām already waiting for several days and since I need to continue studying I need to start looking for alternatives that work.
Just to motivate the team, I will cancel my subscription tomorrow in case the problem is not solved by then. I decided not to do it already today in the hope the situation is solved today.
HI Lien, No word from you, no word from Matthew and weāre into the second week of this problem. Is it just our course? I have to say itās hampering my work too because although I learn the plurals and the strong/irregular verb tenses I donāt always put them in when Iām confident I know them . ALSO when typing in the correction, itās now insisting you type in the whole answer, not just the core word, which is what it used to do.
No, this is a general problem. Not just with this course.
That is why Iām so upset. I need to study and this is making me to stop, almost one week now.
We make the courses to be used in a certain way and if this problem is not solved I will need to redo my courses to allow me to continue without plurals. In the end learning the plural is something that comes naturally, even if you make a mistake here and there, there is no need to force feed them. It is enough to just look and type them once in a while.
You know I actually kinda disagree with you there. The comma bug is unacceptable (but nothing in comparison to the current non-score-tracking bug), but for this course (and I donāt understand why there are so many variations of it - Iām actually a regular contributor to the āsorted by frequencyā version of this course - #47049 - which weāve put a lot of work into improving the quality of), Iām actually kinda glad that Iām now forced to start typing in the plural endings, as Iāve quickly learned that thereās quite a lot of words I didnāt properly know the plural for. Anyway, itās all academic until they actually get their ***ing act together and allow us to actually continue to use the site as intended.
Yes, it is good to learn the plural forms, but for me it is just a nice to have.
After a while you learn to make your own plurals, without having to think much about it. That is, you gain a felling for most of the cases. I still make mistakes but I donāt want to increase my fail rate due to the plurals because that is not the most important for me at present.
In the end we always think we need to learn 5000 words even if we end up not even using 2000. We always need to recognize the words in case we see them, or hear, but if you know the base word you are going to understand that HƤuser is the plural of Haus, without having to memorize it. But of course, every person is different.
I created myself a copy of this course in order to improve it and make it better for me.
The fact that I can change whatever I want helps me greatly to learn and to avoid the stupid mistakes I see all the time with the other courses. Of course that this course was also a copy of other course I found on Quizlet therefore I did a copy of a copy But in this case I gained a lot of quality (this is just because Iām a perfectionist, not because I want to compete with the other courses).
This new situation is even worse. I always loved Quizlet and I guess I need to go back to basics and leave memrise sort their things out. You know the saying, if you pay peanuts you will get monkeys.
Congrats on your 585 streak!!
I had once also a big streak but only in Memrise, not on a single course. But they donāt keep counting it after one year.
Hi, Iād like to give my thanks to those who created and are maintaining this course. I started it last week and Iāve been pleased by its completeness, the helpful hints when there are various possible translations and the low number of missing vocalisations of the words.
When I started last week, I did not have to type in the plurals, and this has just occurred for me in the last 2-3 days, so I presume the problem reported two weeks ago was fixed and has now come back.
Another small problem, which is probably common to all courses, is that in recent weeks it has become necessary to hit the enter key when completing an answer of the type where you have to select multiple words (or plural endingsā¦), in the desktop browser version (but not in the mobile app). I really like to minimise the number of keystrokes in order to move on quickly and this certainly feels to me like an unnecessary step.
In any case, thanks to Elizabeth and any other contributors!
Just to be clear, on the need to type plurals, this applies also only to the browser version. On the Android app version, plurals are not needed (and the result is accepted automatically the last word is entered), and so it is much quicker to use.
Thanks misxifRM - The āmust hit returnā problem seems to have been resolved but as you pointed out the strict typing rulle seems to be back. Iām hoping this will be resolved quickly because itās Memrise-wide and not just confined to our course. Elizabeth
Hello Elizabeth, as I understand from other threads on the forum (in particular the long thread at Has there been a change in the way memrise treats commas?), the problem of āstrict typingā will not be fixed - if the answers contain commas.
My understanding is that Memrise has decided to reserve commas for use within complete sentences, and so they cannot be used as a divider. They are saying that semi-colons (";") or ("/") separators have to be used. I see that this course has semi-colons in some case, but that these are not working as well - but this is apparently a short-term problem.
I donāt know what is the implication of having to change all the commas in this 5000-word course. If you can load all the database at once, then you can do a search and replace, but from what I hear it is not so simple to work on the entire list at once.
Please correct me if I have understood this wrong.
I really find this hard to believe ā that they canāt āgo backā, that previous scripts, programs, whatever havenāt been saved.
Iām sorry but thereās no way I have the time to go through the whole course removing commas (which in any case would render the whole course somewhat dodgy from a grammatical POV - eg der Tag, -e is a common convention in writing down the singular and plural forms in German (or any other language as far as Iām aware.)
I also lack the technical know-how to remove all the commas from the database and in any event it would have to be selective - some need to remain.
Iām sorry not to be more hopeful or positive ā Itās just as much a nightmare for me as for everyone else.
It has become more complicated. In the cases where there are semi-colons, and not commas, if I type a comma it is rejected as an error.
I think that the person who has to answer this is @BenWhately
misxifRM
Well, all the jigsaw pieces drop neatly into place. How sad, something that was really a good community effort gone down the gurgler. I appreciate the need for those at Memrise to make a living but it seems to me the lure of the commercial world (with the prospect of 10s of millions, mostly paying members) proved too tempting. Not enough funds even to keep two separate platforms ā the community generated courses and the Memrise generated courses? Shabby is the kindest word that I can find.
Iāll keep the course going as long as possible. Note to other contributors if youāre still around: We can solve the comma problem by adding the root noun, without a plural, or the root strong verb without tenses, to the alternative list in edit mode. I will do this on a fairly ad hoc basis ā I just donāt have the time to go at it full bore.
They are daydreaming about the 10s of millions of users. Check their forums, when the whole site was down, the most popular topic had 4K views (not comments, or users and i myself checked it 10 times), which means the daily users of the web app are no more then a couple of thousands, maximally.
Thank you to the person who is changing the commas to semi-colons. They seem to be working through the course sequentially and I see that they have already got to level 143 (at the time that I write this posting).
Unfortunately, entering plurals is still required (at least on the browser version) even when the separator is a semi-colon. Since I understand that the course is set to NOT strict typing, I guess that this is a bug.
@hung-phan, perhaps you can look at this?
Ok. @misxifRM, can you post the example for that here? I am collecting all the informations, so I can solve the problem faster.
Hello @hung-phan, I have tested this again on this 500 German Words (Top 87%) course: http://www.memrise.com/course/47049/5000-words-top-87-sorted-by-frequency/
It seems that the plural (the part after the semicolon separator) is not required when typing the answer (neither when learning new words or doing a review), but it IS required when making a multiple selection choice.
You can go anywhere on the course to test this, but it is a little easier to test in āLearnā mode, since the exercises cycle through the word ātappingā option as well as the typing options (whereas in āReviewā mode, normally only one option is provided, unless you make a mistake). For example, there are a few cases at this level: http://www.memrise.com/course/47049/5000-words-top-87-sorted-by-frequency/43/garden/learn/
@hung-phan, in this level, there are the following examples:
die Aufmerksamkeit; -en
die Lage; -n
das Schicksal; -e
der Punkt; -e
der Witz; -e
der Unfall; -"e
die Kamera; -s
das Taxi; -s
It should be possible to just type (or select from the ātappingā screen where you have to tap multiple words) just the part up to before the semi-colon, for this to be judged as a correct answer. This now seems to working for typing, but not for tapping.
In the example shown in the screenshot, this should be marked as correct if the āenterā key is pressed (or the āCheckā arrow selected), but it is judged now as being incorrect.
FYI, @hung-phan, in the example I gave in the screen shot, it is NOT necessary for the semicolon itself to be tapped for the answer to be accepted. I think that this is correct behaviour, since the separator itself is not part of the required answer. (It is ignored if it is tapped, and is shown in white, compared to the correct words which are shown in green, in the screen which confirms the answer.)