Be careful what you wish for. In my point of view, temporary remove user-created content without communication to the community is not acceptable. And no time schedule for the return? Sorry, it is not a promise.
As a Memrise user I don’t see the slightest advantage of your new project.
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You are disrupting Memrise features (mems, community courses, etc). If you want to use Memrise, but not Memworld features, this migration looks unnecessary.
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Ben’s words about bringing features back are very vague, so some of them might never return. Let’s keep in mind that in the past there were things that never came back like multimedia files in community courses. At least, after expanding your developers will be busy as ever and it’ll take time.
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What you are offering (video, podcasts, lessons) is not hard to find on other platforms, internet is full of them.
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Websites dedicated specifically to one language are better than anything Memrise can offer, they are covering more subjects.
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An option to make automatically generated wordlist seems to be limited by Memrise content, thus not appealing to those who want to make their own lists out of anything.
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Promises about developing rare languages are amusing as we constantly hear how busy Memrise staff is. For instance, not so long ago it took about half a year to fix errors in one of the Italian courses, some translations are remain incorrect.
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Everything Ben said so far sounds like propaganda with a goal to seduce Memrise users into Memworld. It’s understandable that you may want to build new audience around those who are already using your product, but the only thing I’d like to hear from Ben is that you’ll stop these changes and leave Memrise alone.
What were they? We can still add images to the courses we create. Was there something more?
This reminds me of that we could add images to mems a few years ago, but not anymore.
Indeed, while I have nothing against all the fancy innovations, I do hope that we could stop having to worry about losing anything that we currently have (esp. mems and user-generated courses)… Could Memrise please add new things while leaving old things alone?
This morning while reviewing some vocab, I was struck by how much of it I almost missed until the Mem came to mind, and how many I knew I only knew in the first place because the images of Mems had been seared into my memory and were immediately and subconsciously summoned by my brain. I’ve been working on saving as many Mems as I can, but for a course like the Goethe B1 word list with thousands of words, I’ve only made it to the B’s, so that’s thousands of Mems I will never get to take advantage of or even see (let alone have a chance to download), and it’s pretty infuriating. Mostly because I already paid you to have access to them for the next 9 months. Meaning, that’s specifically what I paid you for. The fact that I have to rebuild all of this in Anki after–and I cannot stress this enough–ALREADY PAYING YOU for access to Mems is beyond insulting. Grifters.
I’ve never seen them myself, because they are broken.
Take a look at first levels in these courses, they contain multimedia files:
Here’s a description of the problem:
I can’t join the call but I agree with everything Ray mentioned. I also use Memrise for kanji and I would gladly subscribe if it means I can keep the mems. I love this site as-is, and can see from the beta that the changes will simply ruin everything people value, it will kill Memrise.
You can still add images to mems you make, though? I do it all the time
The Mem function is going away entirely at the end of the year. They will just sort of…disappear. No more making or even using them.
Before I carve time out from my extremely busy schedule for a call like this, I’d like a direct answer to the following question:
Is there any possibility that decisions which have been announced by the Memrise team may be reconsidered or is this simply a call to try to sell us on what has already been decided?
Thanks.
So the problem is that multimedia levels are not available on mobile apps, right? I am aware of this problem. I didn’t get what you meant just because I’m so used to viewing multimedia levels with my computer, which seems to display them with no problems.
Oh, yes, you can still upload images from your device. But a few years ago, there was a photo library which you could browse and from which you could select images for your mems. I used to make mems with that, but I don’t add images to my mems after the photo library ceased to exist.
BTW I’ve just taken a look at your mems. They are very interesting and funny. What a pity if you could no longer make mems after the turn of the year!
If you need help for saving your precious mems, you may find this helpful:
http://community.memrise.com/t/rollout-of-the-new-dashboard-and-learning-sessions-experiences-to-all-our-customers/69305/187
PS I’m also learning Japanese (without needing to memorise kanjis from scratch as I’m a native Cantonese speaker from Hong Kong ). Bon courage!
Oh, I see, that’s a pity. I’ve only been here for 3 or 4 years so I didn’t know
And thanks haha… I didn’t notice I even had that many but I have over 500 apparently. No way I can save them one by one manually
Good luck to you as well!
How do you access mems for a specific course like that?
I thought mems are only shown when you are learning new words, or failing them during the review. Both ways require a lot of redundant actions and are very cumbersome and unreliable. Is there a better alternative that I don’t know of?
Oh, I’m not able to download everything, just remarking that I’ll never even get a chance to see the Mems for the Goethe course because I’ve only made it to B alphabetically. I just save the Mems on items as I learn them or if they are ones I miss a lot. I don’t have any special tricks or anything, sorry.
Many thanks @BenWhately for setting up this meeting.
I’m sorry but I will not be able to attend due to other commitments, but I am sure you will be giving us a resume afterwards sometime.
Also I know you have seen and read the many comments we’ve all made in various threads recently (and in the past), so I sure you know our views and concerns.
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Bottom line, as long as our created and supported courses continue in a format we like, and Mems are available, I shall be pleased.
Okay we will definitely listen
As a reminder, please respond to these questions:
Thank you, @BenWhately, though I still have some concerns and I’ll need to see how things work out, the meeting was very constructive. Good luck with the new project. Please remain responsive to the community.