Points all messed up

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I use an Ipad to do Memrise.

I have finished a few courses but like to keep revising the words so they stay in the top of my mind.

In order to keep my “streak going”, instead of 10 words as before (150 points each), it’s now 300 words. These course are finished so I can’t learn 7 new words to meet my daily target. On courses I’m still leaning, it’s a 10 minutes job to learn 7 new words.

There is one variation and that is if the app serves up words for you to practice. That still gets 150 points.

Today my 197 day streak will die. Not happy.

I’ve notified Memrise to no avail.

This is very discouraging to learners, I feel.

Any tips please?

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You can adjust your daily goal for the course to the minimum and then do (speed) reviews until it is reached.

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Thanks for the reply, but as a non-pro user, speed review is not available. My points target is 1500, which is already the minimum.

Not sure why they did this. It’s very discouraging.

I’ve amassed >10m points, all legally and this is a pretty big turn off.

Can only hope that at least 10 phrases pop up before midnight on my completed courses.

Thanks for being interested.

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Have you tried restarting the completed courses?

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You can also do a normal review without waiting until some words are available for a review. Just click on the review button and Memrise will start a reviewing session with some words.

I’m not a Pro user, but I can do speed review. Although, I’m using the web interface, not an app.

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Not sure how to re-start the course and whether that would screw the streaks anyway. And it would heart-breaking (and boring) to re-do an entire course from scratch.

As for just doing a normal review, that only gets 5 points too. :frowning:

I think they’ve had people cheating on points (I can see some threads on this) and have decided to crunch this. Tough on legit learners though.

I’ll try the speed review on the desktop.

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Blutach, I’m sure you’ll lose your streak if you quit a course, but what you could do is quit some levels. It will still be a bit of a pain re-doing those levels, but it will enable you to continue your streak for some time to come. What Memrise really need to do is allow one’s streak to continue across levels, because IMO it’s unfair one you finish one course (say with a long streak) that ‘that’ streak finishes. This has been raised before - so far to no avail. Best wishes.

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Hi Maxine!

How does one quit a level?

I don’t think that even helps for completed courses.

I have done some speed review on the desktop, but that inevitably leads now to Difficult Words (as you run out of time). I can’t do enough of a speed review and just stop.

Sigh.

Why did they do this? I reported this ages ago in beta testing

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Go into the main page of that course, where you see the icons for all the levels, eg Level 1, Level 2 and so on. Pick a particular level, maybe with a lot of words, and you’ll see a white box near the top with the word “Options” (right under Level …). Click on that, then click on ‘restart’. That will wipe your learning history for that level only - so your overall streak should still be good.

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Yup. That works. It’s so convoluted. I find a level with just a few words (otherwise, the desktop version wants to teach me 20; dunno how to change that) and re-do it. I suppose that’s revision, lol.

I’m also keeping at least 10 “required revision words” up my sleeve for future days (i.e. if there’s 40 to do, I’ll do 30 of them) but that limits the revision I can do on a particular course.

Goodness knows why they’ve made us go through these hoops.

Thanks Maxine. Appreciate it much.

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Go to http://www.memrise.com/settings/learning/ and you should be able to change how many words you get in learning sessions and how many in review sessions.

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Thanks! This convoluted way seems to work. :grinning:

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You’re welcome!

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I also noticed a change two days ago. In order to keep my streak going, instead of 10 words worth 150 points each, it’s now 300 words worth 5 points each. Any idea why this change happened?

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are you using iOS? There was a bug and you would get 150 p reviweing a word which time had not come yet. They fixed that bug and now if you are reviewing words that are not grey yet you only get 5 ppe. Frases with gray flowers give you 150 or so points per each

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Only trouble is when a course was complete, you couldn’t meet your daily target of 7 new words/1500 points (or whatever). Maxine’s solution above makes it possible to do so now.

Memrise needs to serve up each day at least your daily target in points for completed courses. Hopefully, a staff member will read this.

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If course is finished you can do speed review. 45 points per each. And there will be blue revision as well on some days 150 ppe

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That’s true but I haven’t found a way to actually stop a speed review. You have to go through till you get 3 things wrong and then they are difficult words, lol. You’re still doing more than 3 times the amount of work than before though, although 35 words isn’t going to kill anyone.

This has not been well thought through and I reported it when it came on on beta to deaf ears.

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If you restart a course or a level just to receive points …in my opinion it is a bad idea. Points don’t show how much you know.
Your highest streak won’t disappear. You can choose a bigger course.
Memrise is meant for learning

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@Atikker ~ “Points don’t show how much you know… Memrise is meant for learning.”

In light of a protracted conversation that is going on in another thread, these are well chosen words that everyone should embrace. Thanks for the reminder !