Important Update: Upcoming changes to Memrise community-created courses

I did. It said:

I welcome this change. Are there plans to make the API more open in Decks for users and/or open sourcing some parts as well in the future? I would love to contribute to such a project.

Strangely enough, it got deleted.

Iā€™m the one with the profile of a black cat and a red scarf xD Hope it wasnā€™t me the one you saw on facebook xD

Fully support your opinion. From 2014 it was downhill road, but still useful. After they removed most of the support and the stuff, the doom-day was coming

Hereā€™s another good one:

" What would make you a better leader?

Better listening skills."

Are you listening Ed Cooke?

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I paid the full price so I can make my own courses and use them in offline mode. This has been a daily part of my language learning routine for years. I am so incredibly annoyed by this.

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Same here, the beauty with staged learning is that you create your own courses that relate to what you want to learn.

But what about offline mode? We are paying for that service.

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To contribute to the actual convo again,

From my personal perspective (but Iā€™m a language teacher, if that can count), the official courses are not of an outstanding quality:

  1. they seem to be geared towards tourist situations,
  2. they stop at a very basic level and thus arenā€™t helpful to reach any communicative proficiency,
  3. they donā€™t do a good job teaching grammar (so you can autonomously arrange acquired vocabulary) and
  4. there is a very limited range of courses/languages altogether.

It is in other words very understandable that the large majority of users still opt for user-created content, because it actually meets their needs. From a business model perspective, Memrise is now hurting themselves because offline mode (Pro) is mostly used by

  • Users in remote areas with difficult internet access; these users would be learning the local languages, which arenā€™t covered by Memrise official courses
  • Users in China, who otherwise have to use VPN; I donā€™t know what courses Chinese users often learn, but I imagine cramming for language tests is popular, or maybe learning one of the many local languages, or foreigners in China learning for HSK or somethingā€¦ in other words, not official courses
  • Users who study during commute (incl. underground, donā€™t wanna use too much data) would often be for work/universityā€¦ and again, official courses donā€™t cover business/academic situations or vocabulary.

At least, thatā€™s the trend Iā€™m picking up from this thread. I donā€™t know what statistics Memrise have available to them about why they think people buy Pro, but from what I can see itā€™s largely those three groups of users.

And in terms of acquiring new usersā€¦ most of the Memrise users I know use it because ā€œa regular Memrise user recommended it to themā€. A lot of the disappointed voices in this thread are definitely no longer going to bring in any new users. At most theyā€™ll suggest Decks to their friends/family/students, but definitely not Memrise anymore.

I really think this is gonna hurt the revenue, because the discourse IRL and on social media is now against Memrise.

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Offline mode will still be available only with official memrise courses. Not with community created courses.

Utterly baffling to keep all the community courses data but not provide the app or offline downloading. How much extra would that cost?
Memrise clearly has paying customers already who use it.
What is the point of losing your paying customers for future potential ones who may never arise?
Why such a rushed timeframe?
It smacks of panic.
Why not just keep as is under the new Decks name with an app and downloadable offline option and be honest about a new price point if that is the issue?

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Yes I donā€™t understand why they just changed the policy that community based courses are only available for Pro. I would pay for that. As of March 1 my Pro is not worth paying for.

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The e-mail I got reads as follows:

Weā€™re getting in touch because you have previously created your own courses using the Memrise website. We want to let you know that we are moving all community-created courses to a new sister website called Decks, which will go live in early March.
(etc.)

I have two(?) courses on this account and probably ten-ish on user/Linglot (a community account). None of them are particularly big courses, the biggest is ā€œMastering Macedonianā€, soā€¦ donā€™t know the criteria they used to send out the e-mail.

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I wonder what kind of business allows itself to have 400 complains in one day and is willing to lose nearly such number of paying customersā€¦

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thank you for taking the time to answer my question :slight_smile:
I also wonder what criteria theyā€™ve used since my course isnā€™t the smallest as well.
Anyway, this sucks a lot.

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I would love to export content which I created and use it locally (maybe as a list of words and flies). Will you provide this function before migration?

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Am I the only one who is too depressed to EVEN BOTHER continuing learning a language? I usually use Memrise during commute to keep learning every day, yet today I just looked at the app and sighed, and preferred playing Candy Crushā€¦ It feels like, why bother, it will be gone anywayā€¦

Sigh I really hope they wonā€™t do this, I was already bummed with Duolingo. If it go that way I think Iā€™ll stop learning languages as a whole.

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I have a life time subcribtion. And I paid it for several reasons. Other users already wrote why they will cancel their pro. I canā€™t do that and Iā€™m more than annoyed, Iā€™m pi***d.

I use the app a lot and now you are telling me, that I have to switch between sides or ap and a side for learning. Thatā€™s not what I payed for! If other platforms are changing their system, like duolingo, they can say ā€˜hey sorry, donā€™t complain because itā€™s for freeā€™. But you have paying members and you are not that cheap.

Iā€™m sure there is a plan behind this to gather more money but most of your paying! members donā€™t use your content but courses made by other users.

Please donā€™t tell me a company makes any effort to support a website thatā€™s for free and doesnā€™t give any profit, sorry but I donā€™t buy this.

And no, not everybody can just use is because itā€™s for free. Many people donā€™t have always good access to the enternet and/or canā€™t afford to pay an unlimited access to it. And they donā€™t need to pay because, what they use will be for free? No logic, just sand into the eyes of your custumers.

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I expect this thread to have 1000+ posts in a day, and maybe up to 5000 in a month, or more. There will certainly be an economical impact when Pro customers leave this platform.

While Iā€™m not planning to walk away from Memrise and Decks, i still do understand, that this would be a great and reassuring tool for any course creator here.

Itā€™s funny because as soon as yesterday I again recommended Memrise to some people I encountered. Yet today I wanted to reach up to them and tell them to not mind and that I was wrong.