Do it. Also use Google Play and iOS app store ranking,
If we could just have a bit more info on WHY this has been decided it would help. I donāt want confidential cash flow details just some indication of the thought process behind it.
Agreed - of all the SRS or language apps out there I always recommend Memrise. And now I feel slightly foolish!
RIP Memrise. I cancelled my Pro a while ago because Memrise kept making terrible changes for its users. Time and time again they have ignored us. If we want to be heard itās time to vote with our wallets. Personally, Iāll be moving to Anki now, as I only use the Memrise app. What a disgusting company. They want to complete with EA for worst company of the year!
To be honest I donāt think ranting is the solution of the problem. As someone working in software there is nothing more irritating that people ranting, as bad as the decision can be. That would make them not even considering fixing things that can be fixed, and not waste any strength on pleasing users.
The right way to do would be to sign a petition, so that managers can see how many people are affected. And of course asking for refund or cancelling subscriptions since they fail in their TOS.
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Iāve been in many meetings where ranking was discussed, if it drops below a threshold, letās say 2.5 stars, CEOs and the rest start asking really nasty questions. But it of course depends on the company.
User comments are also good, as prospective customers read those before purchase.
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I agree with you. But to āplayā with Rosetta Stone or Babbel they have to improve their courses. Or better throw them away and make new ones. The interesting question will be with witch money if too many paying members are jumping from the boat.
@scmelville we are preparing a follow up to give more info on why we decided to launch Decks.
Iām sorry for all those who are frustrated - even if you donāt agree with the decisions Memrise makes, weāre trying to be upfront about them
Are there gonna be any ads on the Decks website?
sorry, but frustrated is not the word I would use. but I know the rules here, anyway. You can give us the reasons for YOUR decision but it doesnāt make the decision less āfrustratingā. Because this is not a discussion, this is an anouncement of the company and we have to swallow it. And make our decisionsā¦
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I donāt plan to walk away either, I would just feel better if I have more control over my content. Downloading content would give me that control. I have created 35 courses and at this point I am extremely upset about the perspective of losing them. I had some very bad experience with migration on other web services.
Jesus H Christ, youāre a maniac.
@yermishkina Unfortunately I canāt promise anything on the downloading of content, but I can guarantee that you wonāt lose any of your courses or progress.
The forum here put my tiny cards comment out of context. It was in response to someone talking about creating their own content for review.
I agree, as far as the community content goes, itās just too unreliable (the Dutch tinycards were terrible.) Too many people who are sloppy and donāt check their own work. But, I do check my work always, three times, so my decks are reliable, and itās mine that I use. For instance, Iām using them to learn all the German vocab that I donāt know from the series āDarkā, as well as German vocab from other sources.
For using my own stuff, which I know to be reliable (again, because I proof my work and catch my mistakes!) to learn stuff from, I find Tiny Cards excellent and I like it a lot.
I donāt like Quizlet or Anki.
The decision cannot be reversed. Why? Check out the photo of the staff on https://www.memrise.com/team/
The extremely valuable core product, a simple spaced-repetition application for community courses, requires about three developers and an accountant to manage.
But because of the popularity of this simple product, Memrise nurtured dreams of world domination and hired 60 staff. Now, they suddenly realize that the will be unable to pay the bills with the original business model, which has limited growth potential.
Alas, the market for the product they want to make is saturated, and they will find it hard to succeed. Further, they canāt transition while still devoting sufficient resources to their core product. But nor will they have the capital to continue without the existing paid user base, for whom the new product is not terribly useful.
This is, quite simply, the end. For us, and for them. Sighā¦
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Well, it looks like you just do not hear us.
The problem is not that you have decided to launchd Deck.
The problem is how you are planning to do it. In the most inconvenient way.
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Problem is that for a business to remain successful you need a niche of some kind. Thereāre plenty of language learning sites/courses out there with higher prices and more interaction or with more book study ā if we wanted one of those, weād go there, right? Completely abandoning what made you successful in the first place is never a good plan, in my opinion. Thereās a difference between expanding a model and demolishing it, aye?
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Iāve been a premium user for many years using the app almost exclusively offline for Japanese and Korean vocabulary. A sad day indeed, subscription cancelled.
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If it where really open source, I donāt think this would be an issue. It isnāt open source, however. The CONTENT DEVELOPMENT is open source, there at the whim of the site owners. The technical side is not open source. The community site I referred to in an earlier post, which we are attempting to set up in an ethical way, is going to be entirely open source and, we hope, very user friendly.
Iām even more sad about this this morning than I was last night. Iām getting more into teaching Maori rather than being a learner who shares what they know, and I have been planning to seriously upgrade my courses and create new ones, but I donāt know if that will even be possible, let alone worth it as both decks and memrise might go down the drain. Thereās no equivalent product out there that I can see. No high quality, user friendly, community content learning apps with a range of course options. Maybe someone will develop a replacement? I really feel a huge sense of loss, and donāt understand why memrise wants to get rid of a whole bunch of paying customers. Thereās so many other language learning companies out there that I canāt see what memrise is going to offer if community created content isnāt their product.
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