Has there been a change in the way memrise treats commas?

[hung-phan]

Sorry, it only applies for Web version. Not for mobile yet

[RobertKnight8a]

Ah, that explains it.

[neoncube]

Hi @demaxski,

For that, I think you need to use the ‘/’. https://global.discourse-cdn.com/standard10/uploads/memrise/original/2X/7/78b2679cb33a916ba81ad6fb41e91d303336c52d.png has more inforation.

[demaxski]

@neoncube

Thanks but I already know.
My post was a reply to this post:

Has there been a change in the way memrise treats commas?

As of 2:15 pm EST (New York) Dec 4, 2016. I put together a test course to see for myself how the commas and semicolons work. This is what I found: For typing tests: There is no difference between how commas and semicolons are treated. In fact, if a comma is asked for one can answer with a semicolon and vice-versa. String: xxx, yyy Correct answers: [xxx] [yyy] [xxx yyy] Wrong answer: [yyy xxx] The same is true if the string is xxx; yyy. So answers in different orders are never marked corre…

[demaxski]

@neoncube
When do you think you will post the userscript?

[neoncube]

@arete_hime and @demaxski, I’ve gone ahead and posted the userscript. Please see this topic.

[demaxski]

@hung-phan
If this change only happened on web, would it be possible to add a setting that course creators can toggle to use/not use a comma as separator just like the setting for strict typing?

[demaxski]

@neoncube
Thank you.
This will be very helpful as my course only uses commas for synonyms so it won’t matter that much if it use another separator.

[neoncube]

Great!

Please note that although I think the script should work fine, I haven’t extensively tested it, so if your course is widely used, you may want to wait until some other people confirm that there aren’t any adverse effects from the script.

Also, I edited my above post; it now has a link to a separate topic.

[demaxski]

I will first test it on some courses that I don’t use anymore and also are not being used by other people.

[neoncube]

Okay, sounds good

[dylan.nicholson.548]

I don’t have any user scripts activated. I don’t know what you mean by “let QA know”, I’ve never had any bug reported through the old bug reporting mechanism even so much as acknowledged.
I’ve only definitely noticed it when you get an answer wrong and are prompted to type out the correct answer - it automatically accepts the initial parenthetical word and doesn’t let you type the rest.

[mportegg]

@BenWhately

Have you abandoned your Chinese courses in the wake of these “comma changes” or will they be updated eventually? I’m not super far into the HSK 6 course, but the comma changes are causing me a lot of grief in my review sessions and I’m reluctant to continue.

I just want to know if I should keep on trucking or quit it and move on to a more current course. I do appreciate all the effort you’ve put into the site, and it’s been truly helpful. Just would like some solid confirmation.

Edit: No response in nearly a month. Quite disappointing.

[fairycircles]

Yes I’m also wanting these courses to be fixed! : (

[whizzer0]

So from what I understand the changes were reverted and then added again as an intentional feature? And the official way to get the old behaviour back is through a userscript? Why not just give us the option? I don’t understand what this breaks. I don’t have the ability to edit the course I’m using and I have no idea if the creator of it is still active to fix it. Can we at least have an explanation for this that actually makes sense?

And, again, is there a good replacement for Memrise? I’m trying Anki at the moment.

[demaxski]

@whizzer0
There is no official way to get the old behaviour back. But you can use a userscript.

The reason that they removed commas:

Memrise NEWS, ANNOUNCEMENTS and UPDATES

In course creation the comma no longer works as a separator, instead: A chart explaining the way that different separators will work from now on: If you want more details on memrise punctuation: @hung-phan is in the linked thread helping course creators with the transition. He has also written a userstyle (and a script?) to easily edit the affected courses. @neoncube has also written a userscript that allows course creators or contributors to automatically replace commas in thei…

[Hydroptere (Overlord Hydroptère)]

btw, if I look at Ben’s explanation: if they have “tens of millions” of app-users, I would expect a much bigger team of devs…

btw, here an article of a prof musing about the usefulness of memrise for learning Latin: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-classics-teaching/article/the-impact-of-using-memrise-on-student-perceptions-of-learning-latin-vocabulary-and-on-long-term-memory-of-words/B8F58571C6C7EDA40453FA9274D7CF9D

I wonder - now that the best Latin courses in here are simply broken - was [what?] would she say about the same topic today

[kotodama]

Bleh, Comma, Hyphen issue comes up again. This time in the Country Mapping Course by @azrael42

Specifically so far it won’t accept U.S. Virgin Islands as an answer, nor will it accept Cape of the North. Instead I have to hack it by typing in ‘American Virgin’ and ‘Nordkalotten’ Not sure if azrael42 is even active to fix this issue.

[whizzer0]

I’m having trouble with the userscript. As far as I know I’ve added it exactly the way I’m supposed to, but I’m not finding a difference in the behaviour of commas. Anyone know what I’m doing wrong?

[DW7 (Meminence, Rank 15 &)]

Hi @kotodama Cc @azrael42

Not sure if azrael42 is even active

As his name does not appear as a link above, the answer is not at the moment.

It is a great course which I have studied. You could just ignore the one or two offending entries.

However, there are other mapping courses, several of which I support.