Farewell to the 'Old Format' Web Version

I guess its really annoying for R&D team to get gazillions of “Stop making a good product worse” responses. But… honestly, stop making a good product worse!

Dear Memrise team, are you aiming for kindergarten kids? This new desing is making my eyes to pop out unfortunately. Its too bright, its too much! Bold explosions of color are overwelming and draw attention elsewhere.

I dont know why you make decisions as you do, but … it feels like a constant pass of regress.

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I’m one of those Windows 10 Firefox users.

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Me too. :slight_smile:

Also, there’s really no reason to displease or even chase away 2.6% of your users just because there is a single thing that’s not working - I’ve don’t see any other browser-related problems with Memrise and Firefox presently (not sure about audio recording which I haven’t used in a while).

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Guys i’m not saying we’re not fixing it, i was just trying to manage expectations on the time of the fix. I filed a bug immediately and we’re literally testing the behaviour on different test types now to try and understand. We did actually do a fix a few months ago and it worked at the time, so we’re figuring out why that no longer works

Just started my daily session, and so much is wrong with this new format. It is not the styling, or the design that bothers me. It is the functionality of the page which is worse than before.

The page takes longer to load after entering the correct answer, It is slow to confirm the answer, even slower to load the next word/phrase, the delay causes keystrokes to be missed.

  • The ‘enter’ button does not work. (Firefox). Incredibly slow to enter by mouse clicking each time. It makes the page almost useless for practice.
  • If given a choice between 4 and 6 options, you can no longer select the choice by using the number on your keyboard, it must be selected using the mouse. Again very slow and cumbersome.
  • The option to type the correct answer after a mistake is no longer there. This was important in the reviewing process. Giving a chance to get practice before the next time it appears.
  • The timer is gone. This was good, because you could test or challenge yourself to get the answer.
  • The audio won’t shut off. I use it sometimes, but cannot have it on all the time.
  • The results page is missing (no-report on how the last session was, incl. words correct, words wrong, percentages etc.). This was essential to seeing how you are progressing over time. See where your having trouble.

Functionally the new design is incredibly difficult to use.
I agree with User11, The auto-check function helped greatly for Japanese, which has many similar sounding words. The difference between a correct answer and incorrect could be one small part of a character. This auto-check function made it much easier to practice and get words correct next time, because you would notice the difference easier.
Please return these features, or give Firefox users the classic version back until then.

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Right click the tab in the browser and mute site

We’re looking at the enter key on firefox, it works in all other browsers

One more for your list @James_g_memrise ,

In listening tests if, after clicking on an option, you are not quite sure what you heard, you need to click on one of the other options before going back to listen to the first one again because, if you don’t, the second click will be accepted as your answer (right or wrong). It would be better if we had to click the “Check answer” button or hit the “Enter” key to submit our answer.

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I’ve also noticed this. It was a good way to keep track of how many words were learned…

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Yes! This detail was useful for showing how my accuracy levels were progressing (or not!) and helped inform statistics that I had been keeping for individual courses. Now, sadly, lost.

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Not sure if this has been mentioned, but please bring back the feature where you could click on the “Show me the answer” page for a brief moment even after you got the correct answer.
I used this a lot to review Pinyin and own example sentences, that I put in my own courses.

I thought this might work with the “show after test” feature that you can turn on for columns, but even if done right, it only shows up for 1 second, which is way too shor. Just bring back the option to show the window that pops up after a wrong answer, even if you got the answer right.
Would be greatly greatly appreciated, it feels kinda frustrating at the moment, after I put so much effort into my courses…

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This has been the most frustrating part for me so far. I can understand the frustration with the UI, even though I don’t have too much of a problem with it, but the option to write the correct answer in standard review is so important to me. It is the reason why I stuck with the old version. I need to be corrected and forced to do it correctly before a word sticks in my head. Otherwise, it takes much much longer and is quite frustrating.

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Also my most missing Feature… " The option to type the correct answer after a mistake is no longer there. This was important in the reviewing process. Giving a chance to get practice before the next time it appears."

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Correct me if I’m wrong @James_g_memrise, but can I not edit an entry while reviewing now?

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I am afraid so. The effort to support this functionality could not be justified given the amount of times it was used, I appreciate that for those who did use it that’s not much consolation.
But as you know we are working on a new system and we have to get to that as soon as we can and where the new technology stack makes building such features much easier.

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Is there a reason the graphics are so enormous? I’ve no idea if this is part of the reason for the slowness of the site. Sometimes it takes a couple of seconds before it renders a new word. Couple that with the lack of enter key and reviewing takes twice as long.

I’m another Firefox user. Chrome isn’t an option for me as I shun Google products.

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The new experience sucks, in all frankness. After having been force-moved from the old web version and having given it a try for a couple of days, I can very assuredly say that in terms of language-learning efficiency, it is a decisive step back.
I have been using Memrise for, I guess, the last 8-9 years, and have had periods when I was using it almost daily. To give back, I created reasonably popular courses, with attendance in the thousands and have had a pro subscription on and off. So my Memrise experience is rather extensive.
However, the general tendency I cold see over the years was towards periodic senseless cosmetic UI changes sadly masking a gradual elimination of actually useful features.
To synthesize my position on the new release, I will quote one user from the forum:
“I think many of us would be happy with the ability to use a “legacy” layout. Clearly, Memrise has the infrastructure to support alpha, beta, and default layouts simultaneously. How about adding a “legacy 2021 (2020?)” layout that, aside from critical bugs, is otherwise a frozen release? Pushing this to a hidden option, like beta and alpha releases, while making the new layout+functionality the default resolves many issues. (Embedding “page counters” would also allow internal monitoring of what are the most used features of the legacy release.)”

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I agree with you ginghisklown. I’ve been here since about 2016 and have paid for pro each year. This is probably going to be my last time. It just feels like everything is being gamified and dumbed down. I honestly don’t think memrise cares about us more advanced learners that use it in a more customized way.

I’ve been using quizlet “learn” and “write” functions a bit over the last few weeks but the primary issue with quizlet is they don’t have true spaced repetition. I wish I liked Anki but I have tried it a few times and it’s just not for me.

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Is it right, the most useful feature of typing the words has gone? Or there is a magic box I need to tick in order to activate it? I dread the idea of moving all my courses and all of my students to quizlet now. But without typing the words there’s no sense to stay here

By default typing tests occur 60% of the time in classic review. But to make it the default test type go to your settings and enable the ‘Prioritise typing-only tests in Classic Review’ setting, which I guess is a ‘magic box’?

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Gee, how unfortunate I wasn’t informed when I signed up that there are bugs on Firefox. Unacceptable.

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