Is there anyone who also has a bunch of courses (neatly ordered for daily access) with a mix between official and community courses, using the Android app?
The order of my course list is quite important to me and as much as I’d like to check out “Early Access”, I’m afraid it’ll break the order of my courses when going back to classic view.
Anyone care to report about their experience so far …?
Greetings from a coward. 
I went into and out of EA, just to see it. Everything is fine with my list, but I did not try exercises.
I gave it a couple of tries over the last few days. Note that I have only used this on Android so far.
Here’s what I like:
Here’s what I don’t like so much:
Along with the last update there seem to have also been changes to the Classic Android version:
EDITED - part of reply moved.
I hope the non linking of streaks is only a temporary thing until it’s fixed or we no longer have the much liked courses 1 to 7.
items have now been categorised which can help focus on a particular area of interest (or review it)
This however is a great idea.
To me that’s quite a bugger! However, this thread is about Early Access, so I went ahead and created a new thread for this:
As mentioned in my admittedly very long post at the top, Streaks will be implemented before we make Early Access mandatory. And we have plans or further ways to monitor and incentivise your progress.
But we aren’t going to copy the existing points and leaderboards as they’re about as robust as a North Korean election.
Regarding speed review, i have raised the wrong answer experience is poor, but i can’t see any issue with transitions, it seems identical on my device between the new and old versions, what are you seeing that is so bad?
Forgive me James if you have stated this already or have replied about it.
I really like “Learn with Locals” (LwL) and find the Italians generally speak clearly and slowly.
However I have struggled with the French (as I’ve reported elsewhere) and I am not sure if I can either now (in Classic) or in the future set a particular LwL phrase not to reappear (eg ignore or ‘already know’).
Someone else like Olaf may reply first 
Thanks
PS
The answer to ‘at present’ (ie in Classic) is to set ‘ignore’ when shown the list of LwL words reviewed.
In other words it can not be done at the time (as one can with the Classic text review mode).
There’s two notable changes between Classic and Early Access Speed Reviews:
Both the gradient background and the transition were once present in Classic as well, hence my assumption that SRs under EA might be based on an older version.
EDIT: note that I had created a separate thread about these differences (see 3 postings further up). You might want to move yours and my posting to said thread in order to not further pollute this thread here (as we both know I myself can’t do this anymore ) …
As far as i know there has never been a way to ignore a word in a particular learning mode, if you ignore a word it is ignored for all of them.
Sorry James, I perhaps wasn’t clear.
I’m happy to ignore words or phrases in any mode if I struggle with the audio.
My point was in normal testing one can ignore an item at the time but not when being tested on audio in LwL.
But one can (only) ignore an item at the end of the session in LwL (providing one remembers which phrase it was ).
So I wondered if this has been amended in the Early Access version.
Here are two screen shots of Classic review.
One at the time of hearing it and the other after getting it wrong.
And
But a good point about if I ignore it in LwL then I won’t be tested on it in other modes (which I don’t want to happen).
Perhaps I’ll just have to learn it 
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We don’t have a separate Learn with Locals mode in Early Access. You will hopefully be overwhelmed with videos in the immerse tab, and the Membot will speak to you as it sends a message so it didn’t seem necessary to build a LwL mode.
I somehow managed to completely overread this …
Generally, it’s probably very hard (if not impossible) to find reasonable metrics for comparing something like learning success, general progress, dedication or whatever between people, simply because there are so many factors involved (some learn quicker than others, some topics or languages are harder than others, this list could be continued ad infinitum).
When I look at Duolingo, there’s a zillion ways to quickly harvest XP if you’re inclined to do so, but possibly at the cost of learning not much or even nothing during the process.
Here on Memrise, there have probably always been courses that only serve for harvesting points. You could also create your own private course and learn nothing but earn many pointless points.
Do I care? No. Because I bet the vast majority is really learning.
Regarding motivation in general, comparing yourself to others is IMHO a very important motivator - for instance, think of courses created by teachers and geared at their pupils - there’s a ton of those!
Also, learning is a process where motivation is probably the single one major asset that makes people keep at it. Apart from intrinsic factors such as discipline and dedication anyway.
Streaks and competition are such motivators!
As to why your leaderboards might be “about as robust as a North Korean election”: I disagree.
Yes, Memrise also has different ways to earn points - speed reviews being the quickest and typing answers being the slowest (unless one just repeatedly clicks the hint-button). But still, leaderboards do show the dedication of the people learning resp. working through a course along with you.
I haven’t known Memrise from the start, but for around 6 years now and how points were earned used to be different.
If you ask yourself why it is like that, my personal opinion is that it’s the same as with many areas of Memrise: efficiency, options, variability and whatnot have continuously been taken away or simply degraded.
A very simple example: on Android, you used to be granted 50p for correctly “speed reviewing” an item and (up to) 150p for a typed answer, now you get 150 for both. Does it matter the way it is now? Not too much, I suppose, as it’s better than nothing.
We’re not doing away with ways to measure your progress, we’re working hard on adding them now as they do help to reinforce motivation for people.
But they will be different to the old systems, based more on tangible things like words learned rather than generic points
How do you know that number of learned words is more tangible than points? One can run through many words, but it does not mean remember. Why you can’t have both characteristics?
The leaderboard motivates me if I’m not too low on it because then I know I have a chance of getting to the top. If it is based on words, it will probably no longer motivate me because I would always be very low on the board. I want to be sure the words are in my long-term memory, so I do many reviews before moving on to new words. I agree with Hombre_sin_nombre, “one can run through many words, but it does not mean remember.” Perhaps you could give extra points for learning more words, but please do not undervalue the time spent reviewing and learning well.
no one is saying anything is limited to just words, we will be enriching progress measurement by using multiple metrics, from learn and review and not least how you use immerse and communicate as well, we are not just a flashcard app anymore.
I like the immersion feature and would like to set favorites for videos which I would like to watch a second time to fully understand all of the sentences in them.
Right now it’s difficult to find words in the scenarios I haven’t learnt yet because I’ve completed all of the current official courses in German and Spanish from Dutch not from English. So right now nothing is recognised as learnt.
There is small translation error in the Dutch interface.
Ik begreep de meeste woorden.
Thank you i have reported both translation errors (and the die Eigelb has been fixed already). if you come across more errors please feel free to make a new topic and i will have them addressed.
We will be adding favourites to Immerse in the future along with various other planned improvements to the feature.
We will be adding Immerse for Dutch speakers hopefully in the next month so you can go back to dutch and have your words learned available to you.
How do I stop the video popping up and autoplaying in the dashboard (Classic mode)? I have now pressed skip this video 5 times but it still comes back after a while. Using Brave browser.
Also the immersion stuff etc. look great, I just once again want to beg of you that you won’t change or remove the Classic user created course experience as it is the only reason I’ve been a paying customer for 5 or 6 years now in a row. From what I’ve gathered all the new stuff you’ve been working on are for the general user who wants to achieve a solid B1-B2 level in a language, but for someone who aims at higher advanced C1-C2 level it doesn’t offer as much as a classic user created course teaching you advanced vocabulary or 3000 hanzi characters.
Edit: It seems I needed to select a goal from the prompt after the video, that seems to have stopped the video from reappearing. Knock on wood.
Edit2: Nope, the video autoplaying after inactivity on dashboard is back again.
