That study seems to be about recognition rather than the meaning of the words. So I would expect all meanings to be grouped together.
It wonât be possible to include all possible usages of "omâ and keep it workable for learning. So what entry do you have in the course at the moment?
yep. AFAIK this course is based on the SUBTLEX2 data, if Iâm not mistaken. Besides, the file also contains data about Age of Acquisition (when kidâs learn words) and the word recognition speed (how fast readers get the meaning of a word). This course however (and the 1001-2000 course) seems to apply the SUBTLEX2 word frequency data that can also be found in this dataset:
I used the SUBTLEX2 data for a quite similar course, that is quite useful for all user that have learned one of the â5000 most common words in Dutchâ courses:
Thanks very much, I am going to do your courses next! I have already looked at the 5K course and also recommended it on the basis of what I saw. It looked very thorough and professional.
@amanda-norrsken Iâve seen this sort ofthing before where we get two possible answers that are both almost the same. I did not a screenshot of the previous example, but hereâs one I saw now:
Really, 3 and 5 are the same answer; I only know that the ârightâ one is 5 because this was in the Learning phase and thatâs the one they showed previously.
Is this an issue that can be fixed in the course, or itâs something with Memriseâs algorithm that canât be avoided?
Users should delete donwloaded courses, log out, clear browser/app cache, log in again
Quite likely, this wonât do, sometimes phantom entries (old entries from previous phases of the course making process) remain. Creator should then run this sript: [Userscript] Attempt to Eliminate Phantom Entries It forces Memrise to refresh the course. This time Memrise should only use actual entries.
This is one of the most difficult problems to solve on the memrise platform. As Robert Alexander says, improving the definition is the best thing to do and I have actually already done so. Here is a screenshot of the database entry when I type in âsweetheartâ as a search term:
As you can see, there are three entries that can be translated as âsweetheartâ, âloveâ etc. I have added ânot X, Yâ to all of them, so what you are seeing must be one of those âphantom entriesâ that Robert mentions. Or you need to refresh your version of the course. I added these amendments some time in the last six weeks or so, I would say.
I forgot to mention once again that this was on the web and not on the app. I doubt caching was an issue as @Robert-Alexander mentioned, unless Memrise downloaded the question and answers weeks ago, if you fixed it 6 weeks ago? That would seem an odd way to do it to me, but I suppose itâs possible. Oh well, Iâm not blaming you, @amanda-norrsken, and I greatly appreciate your efforts in cleaning up the course! Alsjeblieft!!
I am sorry you are having this problem, Richard! As you can see, I have tried hard to eliminate it, so I can only conclude that it might have something to do with âphantom entriesâ, which I have read about elsewhere on the forum. I know that - during reviews - I have seen really old entries on the Swedish course I have been curating for over three years now. When I see them, I think, âHow can that possibly still be floating around??? I am sure I changed that years ago???â
What do you think could be causing this discrepancy? Is it some kind of bug? Should we put this problem elsewhere, in the bugs section? Or alert someone from the memrise team, like @BeaTrisy or @MemriseSupport?
I agree with @duaal; try the userscript if you want. Otherwise, donât sweat it, I can live with the occasional âforcedâ errors, it just makes me practice that word or phrase a little bit more!
Yeah, Iâve noticed that, too. I can only presume it was a mistake and I was wondering whether to just delete one of the entries?
On the other hand (this course is not âmyâ course, so I wonder about doing stuff like that ), seeing as the two entries are identical, then there is no problem getting anything wrong when you review something.
this course is not âmyâ course, so I wonder about doing stuff like that
I see it as maintenance, or fixing an overlooked error. Of course, itâs not that important in the grand scheme of things, so donât do it if youâre not comfortable doing so!