Old school tree vocabulary.
Completed Duolingo German Vocabulary by _deleted_150827_1650_04
Section 13 - Household
Der Umzug = (the) move, and this is the intended meaning used in Duo, not parade or procession. (Updated - Der Umzug can be used for a parade, but in the a category on Household, this is clearly not the intended translation.)
Die Wand - wall (inside) - please add inside
Die Mauer - wall (outside) - not included in the list, but this was a confusion within the Duolingo course itself
Das Tor - gate, goal - “goal” as a definition is used later in the course
Der Lieter - the ladder, not leader
P.S. this is my first time submitting change requests to Course as I am currently going through this course as I am +50% on the Duo German course itself and want to be able to use this instead of TinyCards for learning vocabulary. Overall, the course is much better than that in Duo/Tiny Cards which does not include articles, so thanks for adding this course!
Level 23 - Qualifiers
Ziemlich & eher = rather (but no distinction between the two)
Ziemlich = quite
In English, quite is used … “that was quite the show”, almost as special in comparison to some other similar, but unspecified, object/event that happened in the past.
Eher = rather
In English, rather is used … “I would rather [do] this than that” for two comparible options available in the present or future.
Not certain if this is the use/intent of zeimlich and eher in German.
Have you found the original course creator here on the forum? If you write their name with an “@” in front of it, then you will see if they are here or not. If they are here, their name will appear in a suggestion. I just tried this and it seems that this person is either no longer active on memrise or isn’t aware of these forums.
Could you maybe message the original course creator and see if they are willing to make the changes suggested by HansWT?
Thank you @amanda-norrsken
I have just tried this with another course also.
I wonder if this course has been left (for good) as I see there is a Complete Duo Vocabulary course by @Geil but personally I don’t want to learn Duo by the Memrise learning method when Memrise offers plenty of courses tailored for it.
TschĂĽss!
I did not make that course, I just add audio for Bako. It is his course.
Level 25 - Prepositions
Neben = “beside”
After countless books & courses this is the first time I’ve seen “beside” used instead of “next” or “next to”.
There is not much use of 'beside[s]" in native english, and the most common use would be to describe 2 things (people, often in Wedding vows) in a relationship supporting one another. For example, She is beside[s] him. Implying supporting him, whether or not they are physically next to one another.
I don’t think Duo is intended for the tree next to the house to be “supporting” one another in an accusative sense, rather than a positional (dative) reference to each other.
That said… I would highly recommend including “(Dativ)” oder “(Akkusativ)” oder “(2-Way)” next to the appropriate German proposition. Duo’s Helpful Tips also covers this in Prepositions, however here is a different list/resource…
Accusative prepositions always trigger the accusative case.
Here they are:
- bis, — until, up to, by
- durch — through, across
- entlang — along
- für — for
- gegen — against, towards
- ohne — without
- um — around, about, at (when talking about time)
Dative prepositions always trigger the dative case.
Here they are:
- ab — from (related to time)
- aus — out of, from
- außer — except for, apart from
- bei — by, at, in view of
- dank — thanks to
- entgegen — contrary to
- gegenüber — opposite
- gemäß — according to
- laut — according to
- mit — with
- nach — after, to (referring to direction), according to
- seit — for, since
- von — from, of
- zu — to
- zufolge — according to (follows the noun)
Two-way prepositions
Two-way prepositions take the dative case or the accusative case depending on the context.
If there’s movement from one place to another, use the accusative case.
If there’s no movement or if there’s movement within a certain place, use the dative case.
Here they are:
- an — at, on
- auf — on,
- entlang — along
- hinter — behind
- in — in
- neben — next to
- über — over
- unter — under, below
- vor — in front of
- zwischen — between
Hello @Lien , have I read elsewhere it is possible to open up courses where the creator is no longer around for edits?
Ich bin nur einen deutschen Anfänger, aber maybe there are others willing/better suited to edit courses (this course) when appropriate?
Hi @HansWT,
When the original course creator is no longer active, we can indeed add others as contributors.
I had a look at this Complete German course by the deleted user and saw fellow learner
@ckallio215 is already a contributor.
If @ckallio215 doesn’t mind, I’d be happy to add you as an additional contributor.
Dear @ckallio215, can you kindly confirm whether that would interfere with your plans?
Thanks,
Lien
DIE Leiter = the ladder
DER Leiter = the leader (male)
Just FYI:
DIE Leiterin = the leader (female)
I work at the Volkhochschule here in Germany and I am known as a “Kursleiterin”.
Go on to “google.de” and go on images / Bilder and type in “die Leiter” and you will see what I mean.
If “die Leiter” appears in a unit on household items, then they most probably wanted to put “the ladder” in the course at this point.
Level 25
Extra (deu.) = especially (eng.)
Under no circumstances does especially mean extra… english dictionaries do not show extra as a synonym.
Likely this comes from “extra special”, where one can add E…special…LY to replace extra, but one doesn’t say “extra EspecialLY”.
Google translate shows extra;
As an adverb = extra, besonders
As an adjective = extra, zusätzlich, übrig
Yes, the context in Duo was something like “The old ladder is in the basement.”
Hopefully, we don’t put our leaders in the basement and forget about them until they get old!
Level 39
Niemand = no one
Jeder = everyone
I would suggest, Jemand = somebody, anybody, someone, anyone in a chapter on people interacting with each other, in contrast to jeder more commonly used to mean every.
jeder - each, any, either, every
I think that “jeder” here is being used as a pronoun, not an adjective, so “everyone” and “anyone” + “everybody” and “anybody” would be appropriate translations in this case.
Say, in the context of a sentence like, “heutzutage hat doch jeder ein Handy!”
I feel like there is no point in doing anything with this course. Bako’s course is probably the official unofficial Duolingo tree course and is quite a bit more active. Why are you not participating in that course HansWT?
Actually… jeder, jemand und niemand are all covered in Lesson 9, Nominative Pronouns
To answer your question, Duo & Memrise are 2 completely different learning methods… I don’t see a reason to learn a Duo course that is duplicated in Memrise. That and I don’t want to start another course from the beginning.
As to the “dead” course, I do see a purpose in learning Duo’s word list in Memrise, as both (the soon to be dead - Duo Flash Cards) and TinyCards which does not filter out redundant Duo “underlined” words is absolutely horrible.
To each one’s own I guess
@HansWT - If I understand Geil correctly, he’s suggesting that you learn your Duolingo vocabulary in Comprehensive German Duolingo Vocabulary which is actively maintained (forum link) by bakpao, instead of this course, Complete Duolingo German Vocabulary, which doesn’t have an active creator or contributor.
Point taken…
Until yesterday, I did not realize one can “skip ahead” or pick any lesson you wanted in Memrise, unlike in Duo having to “unlock” lessons.
Way too many hours spent trying to “unlock” Memrise to catch up with where I am in Duo to move forward with the Duo tree.
@Lien Is there a way to delete courses that are no longer supported, are outdated, or have more current/active duplicated courses, etc., so people don’t go down this route as I have?