[Course Forum] + 2000 Indonesian Words by thebiglearner/SNikola

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This is the course forum for + 2000 Indonesian Words course.

The old Is it possible to add sound? thread is archived by the Internet Archive.

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Hi @SNikola , sorry to bug you again. I’m worried the current open comments will disappear in a couple of weeks. Would it be possible to close-out all the open issues in the old forum before July 1? There are about twenty or so from me and others.

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I’ll try, and I’ll also try to archive the forum somehow.

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“formulir” = “form”. Form could mean the shape of something and many other meanings. I think the definition should be “paper form”. Also you have another word for “form” “wujud” which maybe should be corrected at the same time.

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“rugi” - definition is “deficit / loss”. I don’t see any deficit meaning in the word. Think it should be “loss / damage”.

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actually… maybe I should do this as a single post instead of emulating the old forum and having a post for every word.

“arahan” - definition is briefing. I’m not 100% sure of the definition “directive” maybe, but not briefing?
“odol” and “pasta gigi” should be alternates of each other.
“untung” - defintion is profit, which is correct-ish but it is also commonly used for luck/fortune.
“salah sambung” - “wrong number” -> “wrong phone number” ?
“jangka waktu” - “time measure” -> “time period” ?
“iuran” -> “collection / premium” -> “dues / levy” ?

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that course has so many mistakes, that @snikola should be credited all rights and author status

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He should - I’m sure he’s tired of my messages :slight_smile:

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“asrama” - barracks. This definition is too military. I think “a dormitory” .
“sampanye” - “chamapgne” spelt wrong.
“dingin” - definition is currently “cold; winter”. Should only be “cold”. Winter is “musim dingin” (season cold)
“tingkatan” - what’s the difference between “tingkat” and “tingkatan”. Both mean level?
“pesisir” - “coastline” -> “coast”
“kutub” - definition is “pole” which is very misleading because I think this is ‘poles of the earth’, like north and south pole.
“keliling” - definition is “surround” which isn’t right. “to go around”
“penerjunan” definition is “drop”. I feel this is misleading. It’s more a person diving or jumping down and not dropping an object.
“pokok” - “main” is misleading since it implies “major” which would be wrong. “main/central theme”
“meninggalkan” - definition “to leave, to keep, to put”. I can’t find support for the last two at all. Should be “to leave behind”
“gigi” - “gear / teeth” --> “teeth / cog”
“mohon” - “please” is way too simple. “to request politely”
“dada” - definition “breast / white meat” is wrong. “chest (body part)” is right. white meat?
“kecurian” - general comment - not sure why this course doesn’t teach base words like “curi” “to steal” first.
“perihal” - think I already commented on this but “matter” isn’t a good definition. Should be “event, incident” or similar.
“paha” - I can’t find any evidence to support “dark meat” in the definition. Just “thigh” I think.

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(btw, as I said in one of my mems, asrama comes straight from SAnskrit, and has in Indo still the meaning of “refuge, school, asylum”. )

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“tegangkan” - “to tighten, arm a weapon”. Not convinced this is an actual word. “menegangkan” perhaps?
“mata angin” - Most people, including me, don’t know what a “cardinal point” is. “compass point”
“cicilan” - definition is “mortgage”. But this is the “mortgage payment”, “installment payment”. Didn’t I log this before?
“kilat” - “express (domestic)”. Think I logged this before too. Kilat means “lightning”.
“untung” - “profit” is correct-ish, but refers more to “luck”. “luck, profit” ?
“terdiri” - “to be consisted” is incorrect english. “consists of”

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“suku” - definition “rate of change” should be changed to “tribe, people, rate (of interest)” perhaps
"kebiasaan" - “custom”. Misleading definition. I thought it was like custom in customized development, but it should be more like "habit, traditional customs’
“siaga” - “alert”. I thought it meant alert as in alarm, but it should be more like “staying alert, vigilant”
“iuran” -> “dues / fees”
“dinas” -> “(government) service”

And just recording some of my unresolved comments from the old forum here so they don’t get wiped:

“perihal” - definition is “matter” which could refer to “substance”, but actually is talking about an incident or event
"antar" - definition is “to deliver” which sounds like a postman, but I think this word is related to delivering people. I think “to accompany, guide” is better.
“tagihan” - definition is “bill”. Has a few meanings including duck’s beak. think “invoice, bill” is clearer
"lewat" - definition is “past” which is very broad. I think: “past (when telling the time),to go past”
“angsuran” - definition is payment. I think this is a specific type of payment “installment payment”.

Unresolved comments from other people:
@Frans_Engstrom4b wants some alternatives to “attack” since there are so many of them “serang”, “menyerbu”, “meyerang”, “terpa”
@Miro_Bell49 wants “ingin” and “mau” as alternatives to each other.
@Terry_McAssi wants you to switch the audio mode on in the course settings, although I believe it already is.

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Changed English for “formulir” to “paper form” and for “wujud” to “form, shape”.

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KBBI gives examples related to monetary loss, and I don’t see an example of physical damage, so I’d rather leave it as it is.

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Partial reply, I couldn’t look some in detail:

  • Changed Indonesian for “barracks” to “barak”, since there was another entry for “dorm”.
  • Even if today is less used, “sampanye” is the correct spelling of the Indonesian pronunciation, as KBBI confirms.
  • Changed English for “dingin” to just “cold”.
  • Changed English for “kutub” to “pole (north/south)”, since it could refer to Earth’s or magnetic pole.
  • Changed English for “keliling” to “surrounding”, but it doesn’t mean “to go around”, that’s “berkeliling”.
  • Changed English for “penerjunan” to “jumping down”; although it could refer to dropping an object too, this is more common.
  • “Dada” means “breast”, not “chest” (KBBI: “bagian tubuh sebelah depan di antara perut dan leher” = “the part of the body at the front side between the stomach and the neck”, while “chest” is the entire body part), and of course white meat is chicken breast.
  • Similarly, dark meat is chicken thigh.
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what is KBBI? i mean which kamus bahasa is this one?

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Kamus Besar Bahasa Indonesia, http://kbbi.web.id/

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thanks. I forgot about that one, it is so very slow (at least for me, needs ages to open)

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“curam” - “sheer”. Sheer also means see-through, or cutting hair in english. Someone has created a Mem to indicate “sheer clothing”. “steep, sheer” would be better.
“kopling” - “clutch” also means to hold something tightly. “vehicle clutch”
“salah sambung” - “wrong number” -> “wrong phone number”

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Changed all.