New Practical Chinese Reader 2 by louislepper

Community-Created Courses Chinese
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There are many vocabulary words that require the user to memorize a long list of definitions. Usually any one of the list is acceptable as a stand alone answer. Can these be fixed if I list them here?

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One simple example is 画愿. The only acceptable answer is, in exact order: “drawing, picture, painting”. Any of the three answers should be taken to be correct, as is the case in nearly every other vocabulary exercise.

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或者 - or, possibly, maybe, perhaps

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This is because memrise changed the system for their new courses so that a comma is not accepted as a indication of a new word. They changed it so semi colons perform this function so course mods need to go through entire courses and change commas to semi colons. If you know the mod of this course try messaging them and maybe they’ll be willing to do the modifications. If there’s no active mod, you could message memrise support so they’ll place you as an active contributor so you can edit the course.

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èȘ明 - clever intelligent bright smart

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Nope, that’s not the case, commas DO work and you actually can just use spaces as well. You seem to have missed my point that only one answer should be needed and not multiple.

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è„żæ–č - the west the occident western countries

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äž­ć›œç”» - traditional chinese painting chinese painting

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漌 - to finish, to be over, whole, complete, entire

This is ridiculous that I need to type in ALL of the above IN ORDER

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Hmm, maybe there’s been an update i’m not aware of or maybe i’m not explaining correctly. I’ll try again just in case it’s my error.
Previously, when courses were made, commas would effectively separate answers. Let’s take your èȘ明 answer.
If the answer was setup as “clever, intelligent, bright, smart”, then ANY of those words entered ALONE, would be accepted as correct. If you enter “clever”, then it’s correct, for example.

After memrise initiated changes, these commas no longer work as dividers. That means now, The correct answer is the full line “clever, intelligent, bright, smart”.
To remedy this, commas must be changed to semi colons.

If you have had instances where you see an answer like “clever, intelligent, bright, smart”, (using only commas) you enter only one of those options, for example, “clever”, and you are marked CORRECT, then this is not because it is accepting commas. This is because, as a course creator, you can set up visible or invisible ALT answers. So in our example, if the entry and answer is :

èȘ明 “clever, intelligent, bright, smart”, and if any of those answers are marked as CORRECT, then in the ALT answers hidden from non-mods, it would have the following set up:
clever

intelligent

bright

smart

In this way, all of those are acceptable because they were set up to be acceptable. You could even set up a hidden ALT like “Generally unpleasant farty smells” and if you entered “Generally unpleasant farty smells” for èȘ明 you would be marked CORRECT because it is an acceptable ALT.

So as you can see, it’s not that you have to type the words in order. It’s that the course was set up with commas as word dividers, and hasn’t been updated to semi-colons. This has caused a lot of trouble because memrise kind of just decided to do this because then they could use commas in their sentences courses, despite the hundreds or thousands of sentence courses setup before that didn’t include commas.

In short, memrise changed what commas and semi colons do as word dividers. You need to contact a mod or become a mod for your course by speaking to memrise staff.

If you’d like to see what i’m talking about. Try creating your own course and take a look at what commas, semi colons and ALTS do.

Cheers

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Or in fewer words:

“clever, intelligent, bright, smart”

Should be:

“clever; intelligent; bright; smart”

So the course is wrong.

The course:

I see that sometimes they used the “;” and sometimes the “,”.

@louislepper doesn’t seem to be on this forum yet, so someone from Memrise could perhaps send them an email. @Lien or whoever does this now for example.

Then to go through the course to change the commas to semicolons, there is this script:

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As Wuxian and Arete_Hime mentioned, the commas should probably be changed to semicolons. This is pretty easy to do with the script that Arete_Hime linked to.

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@Lien, if you’d like to add me as a contributor, I wouldn’t mind running the scripts to fix this.

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Thank you, that response made a lot more sense to me than your original. That is because I know nothing of the behind the scenes work that goes in to creating one of these courses. I appreciate you taking the time to explain in such detail.

Now if someone could please run that script, I can stop pulling my hair out when I get the right answer!