- I agree that the last question of the 6 steps should be the typing one question.
I also had seen it, that typing is mixed in the middle of the steps and suddenly the last (6th) question is multiple-choice but NOT typing.
Makes no sense at all!!!
- I think for the learning mode / flower planting some mix of typing, audio and multiple-choice or tapping is nice.
I also like that I get a few multiple-choice questions BEFORE the last 6th question and that the 1st typing question is not only the LAST but usually is thrown in between 2nd/3rd and 4th question.
I think the best thing would be, to stick to “all typing” (and audio) and omit multiple-choice, once you have got that typing question right.
Even audio questions (type what you hear) are sometimes too simple to count as step X, aren’t they?
If you got the “typing question” wrong, it IMHO sometimes helps to stick to multiple-choice/audio/tapping for a while (2-3 questions), and being presented again with typing on the LAST (6h) question.
If the 3rd/4th question is typing and you get it wrong, it is hard to jump to the very end and just throw in the typing question.
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Actually it depends on the difficult of the word, and if it is a phrase or longer sentence or shorter/longer single word if you can RECALL it (typing tests about RECALLING, not remembering).
ONE concept is not always right for ALL cases.
The longer the spacing in the question queue ordering, the more is the chance that you will have (again) forgotten the word until you reached the end of the question queue, where the questions are re-ordered from the incorrect (typing) answers.
The same is for moving un-learned words to next learning sessions, which Coojingle’s script was trying to prevent (as you usually start from scratch / not knowing the words for the rest of the steps in 4h / 12/ 24h hours).
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You might want to check Cooljingle’s thread about his user script “Memrise learning retries” where we started some discussions how to quickly go through the six planting steps, when to re-display questions from incorrect answers, when to put the same question next (x+1), x+3, or last in the queue.
I believe it should be done depending on an error count and how many flower steps have already been processed.
And I am somehow still missing a new “skip until next session” button for the more difficult words/phrases when I neither get a) multiple-choice b) audio c) typing questions and d) repeating retry-questions right all the time.
Sometimes x+1 would be okay (too simple), but x+3 or x+6 (too hard, easy to forget / not remember) is just too much…
And I hate being “hammered” with the same word again and over again even I know that I can not fully plant it in in the current learning session.
As already described this technique might work for other words/phrases/sentences…
BTW: I have an edit window with a longer written text open since ages for this thread and related 2-3 postings before…but still have not pressed the submit button or corrected my text for the final version.
I kinda still hate that the later versions of Cooljingle’s script use the very next question to test on re-retries (review mem screen and x+1 = double questioning) and not applying at least a custom x+3, x+4, x+6 (end of queue) algorithm and also care for a “retry error count”.
Why have I not submitted my text the past weeks?
Well, I do believe that ideas and variations like that can’t be really discussed in a forum post by post, but needs to be discussed for some transparent brainstormed points more interactive by phone/video call/interactive chat…