They clearly said that they don’t have enough resources to properly support Decks.Once community courses are transferred to Decks I’ll move on to not give my brain worries in
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Here we go, no more subscription for me.
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Yeah the mobile SRS algorithm has been broken for quite a while
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Anybody tried Supermemo?
They could try that as a loophole, however as the service encompassed community decks before and thats the sole reason as to why many people purchased it, I doubt it would hold up. it would be detrimental to their reputation. Without the community decks those services are unusable to many subscribers.
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reposting this other thread here, it has good discussion about the same topic
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Still can’t believe that…
I feel sorry for your time invested, but in the same way for the whole community which did such a great job and made memrise to what it is now. If the management made the right decisions memrise had a great future.
Now it will row into the same level like duolingo, rosetta stone, which are only making language classes for the weeks before your holiday, but definitly not for serious language learners.
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Another disappointed lifetime user. I only use off line course of user generated content. Memrise will never develop content for rare languages like Tswana or Igbo, so people like me are going to be left to go use a tool that is inadequate (no off line mode) or search out other tools.
You’re killing your user base.
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@LangAddict hey come on, you still have 4 days to reach 367… I’m 200,000 points of reaching level 17 whoppe dee doooo, don’t really care ! but taking advantage of the “last” moments. I see a rise in my “learners” also.
Titanic effet.
I’m still wondering about the rollover if it will be exact March 1 or mid March ? Not really clear…
Hang in there
This change could have the potential to bring a lot of good (if both sites were planned to get different functions, serving both publics), but I don’t trust Memrise to use it this way. I guess Memrise will just slowly let the Decks die out of neglect in a few years and get rid of the high quality user courses completing with the trashy official ones.
The official courses are simply not a high quality product (the lay out and structure doesn’t look thought out or professional, the content is chaotic, no clear guidelines on the use of the course such as the need for another real course to complement it for grammar and other stuff, no clear goals, too low amount of the vocabulary for the serious learners, etc). I would love to pay for some official courses with vocab from high quality coursebooks (Scritter does that), I would gladly pay for such a service. Or for official Memrise courses based on high quality resources and made by people actually good at language teaching, not just at website making.
The user made courses are often much better and it is sad they won’t be useable in the app and offline, as that is the most convenient way to use an SRS, despite the advantages of the website.
I’d say this change is a huge message that Memrise isn’t interested in the actually successful and dedicated learners (those who have gotten to at least the intermediate level) or in the learners in many countries with more expensive mobile data. In my country, few people can afford to constantly use a website on the go in their phone and not just when we are on a wifi. And no, it is not a third world country or an exception.
I get it that the newbie learners are a bigger market and they are also more likely to pay for low quality products like your official courses, because they simply haven’t got enough experience to find out. But their part of the market is already filled with Duolingo, Babbel, Lingodeer, and many other better basic app courses than yours.
But it is weird you are not cherishing the perhaps a bit smaller, but faithful crowd of the more experienced learners. We’ve learnt to create our own content and share it on your platform, we have already decided to stick to language learning for years. Even if we leave for some time, we tend to come back again. All we’d want would be getting basic services and also knowing Memrise is a reliable company.
I haven’t payed for Memrise yet. Not because of the price. But because Memrise is not reliable and predictable. Memrise asks the Pro users to promise paying or to pay forward for a certain period of time. But Memrise doesn’t ever promise to keep the service the same or to let the paying users opt out of the changes till the end of the prepaid time. Just compare it to Anki. The desktop version is free, and the app is a one time payment. We know what we are paying for, we get awesome customer support, and we know anki won’t turn into something completely different.
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This only true for Iphone’s.The app is free for Android users
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Thanks for correcting me, I didn’t know.
I am on iphone and I think the one time payment has been a good investment. It’s not that people refuse to pay for anything at all. The android users are lucky.
Anki doesn’t have some of the Memrise’s functions (otherwise we’d all be there instead of here already), but I think it’s stability is a huge plus.
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Decks should be open-sourced so we can continue to maintain it in case Memrise won’t continue to maintain Decks, such as if Memrise Inc gets bought or goes bankrupt.
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I have only had praise fro this app, I have recommended it to countless voluntary classes and friends as THE gateway to learning a laguage, but this is ABSOLUTE BULLSH*T for a lack of better words.
It all started going south when you went from a creative mem-inspired ranking system to a flat and boring level system and when you introduced the spaceship theme…
I see no reason for this, you’re just shooting yourself in the foot. I’ll be revoking my pro subscription if this goes through.
Hopefully the countless amount of people that also plan to revoke their subscriptions are big enough off a deterent…
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I’m in the same page than you, therefore my advice is to back up your courses and progress neither in the app nor in the new site (decks) but into a completely separated place such as Anki that is not linked to Memrise whatsoever.
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If they have changed the terms of the service they are providing they can’t refuse to give a refund. They can try. But they will be hoping you accept their decision, take them at their word and don’t know the law. You can then spend £25.00 going to the Small Claims court after they refuse to refund, and you’ll get your money back from Memrise, plus they’ll have to pay costs and interest if they refused to refund initially and you had to go to court. And damages, e.g. if you can prove the distress over all this carry-on harmed your health, mental or physical (e.g. with a medical letter). While we’re at it, we can report them to Trading Standards and the Ombudsman.
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Can we back up things like streaks? Are they offering to migrate those to Decks? As a professional linguist with exams coming up, I need to look at my daily word count for the last year and it’s going to throw everything up into confusion if that’s lost. Or I’ll have to manually enter it into an excel doc and waste time needlessly.
Any idea what the deadline for back up/ manual entry elsewhere is, have they given us a date?
I anticipate that the new migration will be buggy and not to be relied upon . One of my friends, fellow Pro user, had a thousand-word language course she’d created deleted off the system, it just disappeared once, there was no explanation or apology. Anyone else come across that or know what we can do to avoid it?
Why did they do this at this time of year; if they’d have waited until August they wouldn’t be panicking all their users with exams. 
You are right, trying to figure out what will happen eventually is to speculate. But one thing that is no speculation at all is that Memrise is capable to change its product in a way that severely hinders my learning process without consulting nor asking me about it. This is to happen in March and is no speculation.
My point is I can not trust Memrise anymore as they can change their business plans again with barely no time for the users to react and, even worse, without considering the opinion of those users before applying such a change. I simply do not want to put that many hours of time invested in the hands of a company I do not trust, they do not respect (at least a part of) their customers.
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I mean, you also seem to have been invested much effort in your courses by what you’ve said, hence you are so concerned in Decks, whether it would be linked to Memrise so you don’t lose your subscribers coming from other Memrise courses, etc… You are basically at their mercy and you are not in control of the contents you created so patiently and carefully.
Seeing how Memrise disregards all the people who is complaining about this terrible idea of not allowing offline mode community courses and so, I recommend you to at least backup your courses even if you plan to continue using decks. It may have a happy end, but continuing with them without taking any protection measure would be a risky gamble.
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