Ismail: ‘Please stop.If you let greedy companies do whatever they like they’ll keep removing things and making bad changes that nobody asked about.We users is was made memrise as big as it is so they shouldn’t treat us like that.’
All these sorts of startups depend on developing a core membership which is discarded in this sort of way later. We are hoping that our own CALLector will be able to do better partly because it isn’t a for-profit, but also because it is going to be distributed and open source, permitting independence and control on the part of the user (whether learner, teacher or developer of content or technology). More here: LARA on CALLector
First of all someone told you to stop being optimistic, and I just wanna say, go for it girl! Haha
While reading books and listening to podcasts is an excellent idea, and I would never recommend someone to ONLY use memrise to learn a language, a huge hurdle for many intermediate to advanced language learner’s is needing to know tons of vocab in order to read books or listen to podcasts. Memrise is that app for me, and i am currently using a course to drill vocab for a proficiency test that has over 4000 words. ( had no problem downloading to use offline) For me, flash card studying is not a " sit at my desk and study" kind of thing. We already spend so much of our time sitting that I would rather at least pace around while drilling vocab. I use textbooks and long form problems at my desk. I guess to each their own. Also, for me at least, i can ignore the taps and opt to use my phone keyboard if I want. Did you try this? Personally I just tap though since I am learning Japanese and am working on recognizing chinese characters anyway.
I hope decks doesn’t suck, but I am pretty skeptical that the mobile web version can even compare to the ease of an app. The current web mobile version is straight up garbage. ( try it out!)
You are missing the point. Nobody’s complaining about what it offers. But almost everyone saying that they prefer another way to learn. People in this thread have their reasons to use mobile app instead of pc or laptop.
(please, don’t advertise web version, at least not to me)
As a user who has used memrise more than 6 years I am totally disappointed. First they removed the free offline feature of the app and now only web based training for my personal courses. I mean what is wrong with you?
My private courses’s content is adjusted to my books and other ressources I use. I don’t care for official memrise apps! When you care for your community make a decks app with offline mode for FREE!
There’s a thread covering how to continue to use the app in off-line mode here:
“I know at some point something will break and the thing will self-destruct… I’m hoping to just buy a few more months, until I can finish my Genki II course.”
I still keep an iPad mini running from 2012 which has never been updated, it’s still usable for viewing YouTube videos through the browser.
Be optimistic, don’t underestimate the power of never updating!
Same here. Like a lot of the people posting on here have been using Memrise for years, and a lot of us are cancelling. They must be banking on attracting new users or something, which seems unnecessarily risky when you have such a loyal customer base already.
Will there be automatic redirection links (301) from the old domain address of a community created course to the new domain address for the Decks platform ?
How will administrators and current users find their transferred courses ?
Will course administrators receive a mail or notification about the new links ?
Will course users receive a mail or notification about the new links ?
Can people still use the memrise.com community to discuss these courses ?
Thanks in advance for your answers to my questions.
Cathryn
Alias flamantrose user and creator since 2010.
Those funky growing flowers and Mem stream was a stroke of genius at the time with PROMISES of free lifetime pro access (never happened), charging for your own courses ? etc. etc… LOL
This is the only way I am aware of, but I think there are other ways which might involve some sort of coding I’m not familiar with. I’m sure people in the community will come up with something.
Thanks so much for the info. I’ll go check that discussion.
Actually for me it really is just a matter of principle. Even Google+ and Facebook offers an option to simply download or retreive all your Data. As for “rebuilding” way too much work.
I imagine that more than 50% of my current “learners” (aka 500 per day) are not even aware of this upcoming change. grrrr.
Sorry but I think you are being naive in regards to their intentions (I hope I am wrong, but all the evidence suggests otherwise). The CEO’s blog post basically says we’ve heard your feedback and we are going to do what we planned to do anyway. They deliberately removed the ability to add community courses via the app years ago, yet now claim community courses aren’t popular.
Everything points to “Decks” being a website which will be hosted for awhile, until they finally pull the plug due to “lack of demand”.
With regards to a Mobile Website vs. an App I suggest you read:
Offline and mobile app access matters.
75% of Mexico’s internet usage is mobile, as is 71% of China’s and 67% of Spain’s. Remember China’s population of 1.4 billion people are behind the Great Firewall. Huge parts of the world’s population access the internet through mobile. A lot of people don’t have great cellular coverage or can’t afford unlimited data. At the other end of the income spectrum, remember even 5-star hotels and planes often don’t have great wi-fi access.
Recent research shows that 90% of their mobile time is spent in apps, and only 10% browsing the rest of the internet.
How do you think Memrise’s investors would react if the CEO announced they were deleting the main app and moving everyone to a mobile website (which hasn’t even been launched or tested)?
Exactly, Google’s own development tools show Memrise hasn’t optimised for mobile browsing on their main website (let alone the yet to be launched or tested “Decks” website).
It’s disgusting that we are even talking about all this hackery here (how to backup our courses, how to restrict mobile access, etc), when there is a very simple solution: just give us more time. Mid-March is a no way. Memrise announced important changes on a such short notice, but actually should give us time to finish our learning courses. It would be only fair.
In any case, there will be a lot of bugs on the new desktop/mobile sites, and it will take some time to fix them.
There are already new problems I’ve never seen this week (on the website) which reinforces our fear how well DECKS will be maintained when it’s all “free”
From their perspective, I don’t see why they would delay Decks simply so people would “finish their courses”. They just assume that everyone will use Decks so there’s no need to “finish your course” , as all the progress will be transferred to it.
What I don’t get is them saying it’s gonna be “mobile friendly” while also stating that it’s gonna be exactly the same as the Memrise mobile version. That’s a contradiction if I ever saw one.
In the blog post, it says this: “Decks, meanwhile, will work just as the Memrise website does now”, not that it will be exactly the same as the memrise mobile version.
Wouldn’t creating a new website mean hiring more people to maintain it if they are serious about it?Otherwise the’ll get the same problem of bug on Decks.
way too much work.