I have no inside information on this particular course deletion, just a general understanding of a legal process that happens fairly frequently, on Memrise, and also on other internet sites, such as Ebay.
You said, “course of the same textbook.” Copyrights are complex issues. Sure, nobody “owns” words and conjugations. But when someone arranges those words into groups and designs a learning sequence, as generally happens in a textbook, that learning sequence can definitely be owned as intellectual property and copyrighted, and the publisher has legal rights.
Certainly the publisher has the right to not have the name of their product used to describe a course on Memrise that is not affiliated with or endorsed by the publisher.
If a course is removed by Memrise due to a copyright allegation, the course creator would definitely be informed. The course users would probably NOT be informed. Any copyright infringement is only an allegation, and does not have to be proven for Memrise to respond and take down a course. Memrise would not get involved in adjudication of claims or counter-claims.
(( If someone with forum privileges felt like taking the time, moving Lydia9’s original post about a course disappearing, and responses addressing that occurrence, to a separate thread “Course disappeared”, could be helpful. The event doesn’t have anything to do with this thread ))
Hi, @kevin5284 have you seen my post about display issues with Decks? Though I have a scroll bar on the r/h side (on an Asus T100 convertible laptop) it isn’t actually functional so everything below a certain point on the screen cannot be accessed. Any ideas on how to fix this? Many thanks, Peginthesnow (CarolineParkinson89)
That makes sense, so putting a list in the same order and chapter one, chapter two etc. can be an issue? Is it only if you publish it or even for unpublished courses for private use? In my friend’s case she said Memrise replied to say you can’t restore somthing that’s been deleted and unfortunately nothing’s backed up etc. and there was no mention as far as I’ve heard of any copyright infringement, sounded like a glitch. But I don’t have the correspondence so I couldn’t say further than that I’m afraid. Glad to know that acciental deletions don’t appear to have happened to others, if at all.
I want to present myself like an English student and a former customer. I’ve just received a message from your company notifying that you will delete my courses. I’m going to take my final English exams in two months time and I need the courses that I created to brush up my vocabulary. Those courses which I have been creating with a lot of efforts, it took me THREE years of my time. It has been a very hard work and they are essential for me to get over the English course that I am currently doing.
I have always trusted in your website to develop my database from the beginning. That is the reason why I have been working so hard all these years. And I do not want to failure my exams that I will take in two months because the system is going to work no more. Those courses are invaluable and indispensable for me.
I would be very greatful if you can help and give me any solution to my problem. I am sure we can get an agreement.
y’all are real trifling. I think we could all see that cynical move for what it was. Now i dont know whats going on with this 2 tiered app amendment but if I’m missing any features on decks, I will be taking my business elsewhere.
User related courses are special because everyone learns differently and when it pertains to certain languages that are more complex and/or less popular than others, Memrise hasn’t put enough effort into them to make me ever want to give up user created courses. I have never been impressed by any courses made by Memrise. Their courses are very elementary, boring, and pertain to a specific audience. The only way I would ever pay for Memrise is if they developed a way to effectively teach grammar for the languages I want to learn. Otherwise, it it just a platform for memorizing words and sentences, not actually learning the language. It’s not worth the money.
I’d say don’t waste time deliberately learning/memorising grammar rules - just learn 10,000 words (possibly using Memrise) in a language, then start reading Wikipedia articles and watching YouTube videos that interest you in the language. I’m currently impressed by Stephen Krashen’s research - this is an early video that summarises some of his key ideas.
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak3UrGCj71s
If you like Stephen Krashen, you will also like Steve Kaufmann’s videos on YouTube and his language-learning company, LinQ.
This is pretty much what I did, only I started reading and listening to books straight away, watched kids’ shows on the internet in the original Swedish and pronunciation tutorials. At the same time I started learning Swedish vocab via memrise.
It was so much more FUN than using grammar books or textbooks, although I did buy a couple of grammar reference books, eventually, by which time I could actually make sense of what they were explaining
In school with traditional learning I was able to make basic paragraphs within a year while with memrise and social media it’s been 3 years and still can’t do it.So I disagree.
Why not stop using Memrise and social media for language learning at least for a while, and switch over to the traditional method that worked well for you in the past?
Hi, I’ve watched quite a few of Kaufman’s videos and find them interesting. I might well try the LinQ product at some point - thanks for the suggestion.
Why can’t I use both in the same time.I use memrise for vocabulary,a note book for grammar and social media to not forget what I learn.Ignoring grammar make no sens to me.My mother learned Tunisian dialect just by hearing it everyday and guess what her problem now is grammar.
Sure - my suggestion would be to use a combination of activities that works best for you - maybe try six activities, then pare them back to yield the most effective three or four. In general, after giving them a fair try, quickly ditch any methods that don’t work for you, I think.
I teach languages, so I kind of noticed the grammar as I went along, I didn’t ignore it, I just picked it up without needing to study it separately. But I have a language-learning brain; I notice grammar patterns quickly. Not everybody does - like your mum - and they need different tuition and different methods than someone like me with my background in learning and teaching languages.
I’m a big fan of re-usable patterns where the learned words could be used to form simple expressions, such as “I need zzzz”, “do you have zzz”, “I did zzz (at some time)”. Those pattern forming exercises are mostly missing in Memrise with the exception of adding a basic sentence and from that you learn the use. Grammar is fine but it should be used to annotate the usage, not to learn it first hand. Unless you want people kick and scream and run out from the lecture hall.
I’ve found that the best way to make these simple expressions automatic is by using Pimsleur all-audio courses - that use a form of spaced-repetition system. For some major languages (e.g. French, German, Lat Am Spanish, Chinese) there are 75 hours of audio material available. The courses are rather expensive to buy but may be available through public libraries.
They are also available on Audible, so you get them much cheaper that way if you buy a €10/per month Audible subscription.
I haven’t tried any of them yet, but I was hoping that my husband (whose dad lives in Thailand) was going to use Audible to learn Thai via Pimsleur courses.
Sorry you said " can import decks for Anki,Supermemo and Quizlet easly and I don’t even need to pay for offline." I thought that meant you understand how they work or use them. Anyone else have simple instructions on how to import to Anki or Quizlet or both?
