@BenWhately So are semicolons going to be the PERMANENT way to divide correct answers? I wouldn’t want to change items and then have to do it again! You talked of ‘multiple ways’ . If not commas and obliques what else?
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Hi Ben, @BenWhately
Thanks for your answer. I am in the same situation as Xander, I use Memrise now for many years and I created lots of courses and am f.e. working on the Arabic course “1-5000 Arabic frequency”. I would like to stick to Memrise because of the possibility to upload the sounds of the words. But … change AL THOSE COMMA’S, that is impossible, It will take lot more time than Xander says.
Could you please solve this problem? For example, Is it really impossible to be able to choose for your course what you want the function of a comma to be? Or, whatever …
Or maybe you dont care to loose the old customers? In that case, could you recommand another site and help us with transferring our stuf then?
I hope to hear from you. Zwanetta
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So a) make it an option or b) put some smarts in: if the answer is a sentence, it should end with some form of punctuation (. ! ?), and therefore not be split by “,” or c) provide a tool to easily fix up existing courses to replace comma with semi-colons (or whatever)
But you’re right - Memrise is trying to be two different things. Most of us in this forum have little interest in using the mobile apps and just the “official” courses, and really need our own platform. I’d love to see an open-source version of Memrise (probably with a different name etc.) for that sort of thing, but I’m not sure how realistic that would be…
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Thanks for letting us know what is going on.
Can’t you make a tool that we can use to convert our databases with commas to new ones? Or is it possible to divide memrise into 2 seperate services? One for the community based courses and one for the memrise-created courses.
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Maybe it is possible to write a programm of some sort which checks each item in a given course for comma’s. If it finds any, it will check how many words are before the comma and after, and if this is a small number (1 or 2 and maybe 3) it will replace the comma with a semi-colum or slash. For longer words it will do nothing, as those could be sentences. That way the bulk of the items will be done already making the task left smaller and therefore done quicker. There would than be a button for in the details tab of course creation which does this. This doesn’t have to be permanent feature, but at least for some time after this change so people don’t have to change everything.
There is an extremely simple solution off the top of my head, and that is to add a Boolean attribute to the course databases: “IsSentence”. Then adjust the client-side script so that if “IsSentence” is true, commas will not be recognized as answer separators, if false, they will continue to function as separators.
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@xvg11 The only answer is that there should have been, but there was poor communication within our team. Totally my responsibility, and something we are working to improve. I am really sorry for the annoyance this has caused.
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The problem stays the same, we would still have to go through each item that already exists to change this form False to True or from True to False depending on what the stand value would be.
They could make the default FALSE, so that everyone who was relying on the old behavior would not have to do anything.
Only the courses that Ben is referring to, that want new behavior would have to change.
They could set a column checkmark at the top of the “IsSentence” attribute field, “Set/Unset All”, and it would even be easy for their course creators. Problem solved.
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@Xander5E-XLgaming_in could you send me a link to your biggest courses?
@sandslane “;” and “/” are the separators that should work at the moment and will permanently.
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@Zwanetta could you put a link to that course too?
@demaxski I am looking at that, but I’m not convinced it would be faster to write that than to just manually edit the courses that people are actually learning on. I’m looking at it
For some reason I can’t pm people (or at least I can’t find out how to) and because i’m a new member I can only send two links in a forum post, while I have 6 courses with over 400 items. If you’re going to change them, are you only going to change the comma’s in the items or also in the alternatives?
I’ll take a look and see what I can do!
try sending the first two over.
Hi Ben,
It’s been a long time! Thanks very much for the explanation and for acknowledging that the lines of communication could have been better.
I understand entirely why your focus is on developing the app but are you able to tell us anything about your longer term plans for the web version?
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For some reason it still says: “New users can only send two links in the same post”, so I’ll split the post in two I guess:
These courses have about 800 and 1600 items in them respectively.
Thanks for doing this.
You can do it in a batch.
You need to register but then you have the option to create a batch.
Below “How would you like to use this API?” you have the “Bulk Extract” option.
You still have to write the complete path for each level, but I use Excel for that and it is pretty quick.
bigger they are, the harder they fall
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@BenWhately -I’ve just tried this on a course and neither work. You have to write both for example il buddista ; la buddista or il buddista / la buddista you can not write just il buddista which you could do before.
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I can confirm that, both ; and / are not working atm
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