Different questions with same answer

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Making the English clues read b(not a) and b(not c) works pretty well.

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I’ve been having the same kind of problems trying to learn some French.
meilleur: better
mieux: better
Please type in what better is.
Oh, I think, that’s easy! It’s mieux!
Wrong! It’s meilluer!
Okay

Please type in what better is.
meilleur?
wrong! It’s meiux!
repeat 100 times
quit session from annoyance
As you can see, the only way how to do it is to just randomly guess and hope. And if you’re doing that, you’re not learning are you? This and many other examples are starting to drive me round the bend. The only solutions I can see is to either put them in different levels, or to learn and review words one by one.

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they are not the same, a short google.fr search gives you the answer
 just pick up a site for the French “bac”

mieux - “mieux” est un adverbe dĂ©rivĂ© de l’adverbe “bien”. En tant qu’adverbe, il s’attache Ă  un verbe pour en prĂ©ciser l’idĂ©e.

meilleur - “meilleur” est un adjectif dĂ©rivĂ© de l’adjectif “bon”. En tant qu’adjectif, il qualifie un nom

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Ok, thanks. I didn’t see that. Sorry.

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But in English both are “better” – “He is a better teacher” (meilleur) and “He teaches better” (mieux).

If the hint is just “better”, how to distinguish them?

I suppose the hint then should be “better (adv.)” and “better (adj.)” or the like.

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well, that’s the fault of the english language :laughing:

you will never find a perfect correspondence between languages, does not matter what generative grammarians say
 ever

So yes, one needs an “extra” hint

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@N3th3raid3r, no, it sounds like your point is valid. As mizinamo mentioned, the course maintainer could add “(adv.)” and “(adj.)” after the two different versions to distinguish them.

Which course is this an issue on?

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Your complaint is still perfectly justified. If a quiz-type application is giving you a certain prompt and there’s no possible way of guessing which answer it’s expecting then the application is flawed.
Either it should prevent such courses from being created in the first place (too late for that), or accept either answer.
The annoying thing is that it does accept either answer, providing the course is non-strict and the alternative answer contains diacritics (accents/umlauts etc.) and you type it without those diacritics. Which is very strange behaviour, and hard to imagine how a programmer came up with that


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AQA GCSE French Vocabulary is the course. The level is 1, and the example I mentioned is not the only one.
Thanks for the help and support on this!

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(this coming from a programmer who did not figure out how to make an audio-only course?:innocent::grin:?) here we go again
 ranting 
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@N3th3raid3r
if you mean the course mentioned in this thread (Errors in AQA GCSE French Vocabulary), the creator apparently left memrise. Pick another course, or, given that by now you know the difference between mieux and meilleur, ignore both items. There are hundreds of French courses with active creators on memrise
 mistakes in courses are not software bugs, you should report them in the respctive forum/language category

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Except I never wanted to make an audio only course, rather override the learning mode to only use audio prompts with typing answers. I suspect cooljingles’ script can do it but it wasn’t immediately obvious how.

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@N3th3raid3r, no problem! :slight_smile:

I just checked, and it appears that there isn’t a course forum for that course, nor does the course creator appear to be registered on these forums. If you’d like, though, you could become a course contributor to the course and fix these issues yourself. You’d need to be careful, though, as it appears that there are quite a few people who have are using or have used that course.

Would you be interested in being added as a contributor?

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Thanks to both @neoncube and @Hydroptere on this. In answer/reply to both of your comments, I would love to become a contributor or pick another course, but I’m just a student who was told to do this course by my teacher. I’ve brought this up with my teacher and whether they’ll do anything about it is up to them. I simply don’t have the time to contribute or in truth, care that much. But thank you both very much for your help and support on this.

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On the website, that course gives me cues that look like this:

The cue tells me that I need to enter an adverb. The course creator has the words identified as adverbs or adjectives. It’s there. It’s already built in, and it shows when using the website. It’s not a mistake in the course.

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I sugges you wite in brackets, what you want, i.e. “better (adverb)” and “better (adjective)”

I have a similar problem with some adjectives/adverbs in Romanian: “rapid” = rapid, fast, quick (adjective), while “repede” = rapid, fast, quick (adverb)

Previously I used the possibility of writing which “class of word” (I believe it was called) and the information whether the answer wanted was an adjective or an adverb, singular og plural, formal or informal etc. would appear in a small box together with the “question”.

I now realize that this possibility no longer exist. @Memrise: WHY HAS IT BEEN REMOVED? PLEASE BRING IT BACK!

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This is not something that happens automatically from the side om Memrise. The small boxes come up because course-creators have made them

The possibility of creating these small “clue-boxes” when no longer exists! For old courses, they still come up in the “questions”, but yesterday I realized, that I can’t even create them, when I add new words to an exixting course.

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You should be able to add this by clicking “Add Column” and then marking the “As attribute?” option.

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Ah, okay.

Well, as @lurajane mentioned, it looks like for that course, it at least sometimes tells you what part of speech the word is, which should help you be able to distinguish :slight_smile:

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Thank you neoncube. What you described is how it used to work.
I read your reply later on yesterday, and by then a miracle had happened. The system was back to how it was. I was back to being happy.

I had also written about this on the Facebook Group “Menrise Madness” and directly to Ben Whately via Facebook.

Whoever acted so fast - THANK YOU. You made my day :slight_smile:

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Well, I’m glad it’s fixed :slight_smile:

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