[Course Forum] HSK 6 with native audio!

Trying out your course now since I finished all three levels of the official course and needed another long course to keep my attention. Plus I thought it would be fun to learn some advanced words :slight_smile:

I love it so far! I am learning a lot of interesting vocabulary which I appreciate very much č°¢č°¢ļ¼

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č°¢č°¢ä½ ēš„ę”Æꌁļ¼åŠ ę²¹!:smile:

Please let me know if you need anything adjusted or tweaked - Iā€™m happy to do so.
(I am still reviewing the course myself and making minor refinements all the time.)

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Hey @matteogiuseppe. Do you have any thoughts on the new Memrise ā€œDecksā€ update? Iā€™ve been crossing my fingers for 3 years hoping they wouldnā€™t break memrise until iā€™m done with HSK 6 :sweat:
Hopefully decks will mirror the current website. I only learn on PC because I perceive the app as being much too easy in several ways.

Hi there, I havenā€™t seen anything about the new update. I too only learn on desktop and donā€™t use the app much (unless Iā€™m traveling or something.)

I prefer Memrise too but I guess the real pursuit here is Mandarin, right? So if worst comes to worst, you could just use Anki.

Random note: Iā€™m actually re-doing HSK6 on my own on Pleco with a text book as a vocab guide. The Pleco flash card system is really good. (Iā€™m redoing since I figured now I should actually learn with a focus on handwriting. My recall is much better that way.) Anyway, just my two cents on another platform. åŠ ę²¹ļ¼:muscle:

Yeah totally, iā€™m actually in a similar boat of realizing how much writing helps retention. Iā€™ve been lazy the past half year or so, but thereā€™s an app/webapp called ā€œTOFU Learnā€ thatā€™s free and really good for writing on a mobile. Have you ever used the website Chinese Grammar Wiki? Someone made matching courses on memrise and itā€™s the only course I use the memrise app for (but I guess that will be ending with the decks switch.) If you know a way to transfer courses, getting those grammar courses on Anki would probably be really fruitful.

I would switch to Anki in a heart beat if I could somehow get my word history over also. Does Anki have a writing feature or are you doing that separate?

Hey there, Iā€™ve used Chinese Grammar Wiki but have not seen the course on Memrise. That sounds interesting. Iā€™m actually using an old standard grammar book for HSK6 and writing with, gasp, pen and paper! :rofl: Thatā€™s how I learned originally many years ago and still have the habit.

Right now, Iā€™m actually using Plecoā€™s flashcard system (not Anki) which Iā€™m enjoying. My method is simple: I have the card display the english definition and then I write the character on a piece of paper. The tests are self graded. Itā€™s been going ok for me so far because I had already finished the Memrise HSK6 course that I built and have been reviewing. BUT I hadnā€™t practiced writing so my retention needed some help.

How far along are you in my course btw? Any changes or modifications you need?

Oh yeah, using the old pen and pad will really cement the words in there. Iā€™ve found that when I canā€™t remember a word or understand someone talking, my mind will reach in different domains, from how it looks, to how it sounds spoken, to the process of writing it, and to listening to your own voice. Not only are they 4 categories, but they each seem to have unique memories tied to them. Sometimes I can remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I learned a certain character, so multiplying those memories for recall is always a good idea.

Right now iā€™m about 25% through your course at about 5-10 words a day and project another 18 months to get through it. Itā€™s taking me a while because iā€™m taking it alongside the mirror of your course that tests on English and Pinyin. I find that the direction your course tests on is good for speaking. Situations where you need to translate English to Chinese in your head. The other course I find good for listening and reading. I do the pinyin levels as well just because it never hurts to perfect my tones. Also, Iā€™m going through your course and Iā€™ve taken all single characters and characters in a multi-character word that havenā€™t been learned formerly, and also sometimes root characters that seem to have use knowing, and I made a separate course testing on those. So a quarter of the way through your course, Iā€™ve already added ~300 words to my course, so iā€™m guessing the whole thing will be around 1200. I did the same thing for HSK 5 and just feel like everything makes way more sense when I understand all the charactersā€™ meanings instead of learning 2 or 3 at once for a new word.

I might have to come begging you for your Anki course if Decks doesnā€™t work out :smile: Does Anki have the functionality to test in all 3 directions? (Show Chinese/English/Chinese and enter English/Chinese/Pinyin).

哇ļ¼å¾ˆäŗ†äøčµ·å•Šļ¼That is some serious commitment :muscle: I totally agree with you about the multiple memory muscles involved in recall depending on the ā€˜directionā€™ of translating. It seems like once you work your way through all of that youā€™ll be on really solid ground. One related thought I had: My approach (not saying this is perfect) is to complete an HSK course at a steady pace and then just revise that course in perpetuity. I still have an HSK5 course that I review. You could theoretically complete my course at 10 words a day in another ļ½ž180 days, right? Anyway, just a thought.

Unfortunately, I donā€™t have any Anki decks. Iā€™m doing Pleco and just manually adding words based on an HSK6 text book. Thereā€™s 40 chapters so Iā€™m doing one chapter a week, which is ~ 50-60 words per week give or take. The good thing is I ā€˜knowā€™ ~70% of them from the Memrise course but hand writing them from scratch is a different beast!:sweat::grin:

Edit for clarity: Iā€™m adding words by hand to Plecoā€™s own SRS flashcard system which I think is pretty good. You can set up all sorts of different testing directions. I do believe you can do the same on Anki but Iā€™ll defer to the hardcore Anki users to confirm.

Haha itā€™s just measures iā€™m taking so that whatever good learning Chinese ends up being Iā€™ll at least not forget it :sweat_smile:
Thatā€™s actually a really good point. Getting through the course quicker and just sort of making at least the ā€œbasic imprintā€ of the word could lend to actually going out and using it or reading and reviewing to reinforce. With the sheer amount in HSK6 though iā€™m worried it would pile up and crush me :laughing: I might do that in sections though or maybe towards the end. I still have all the other HSK courses I review on memrise and I still need to find time to start learning ꈐčÆ­ and grammar again.
Haha my brain somehow continually skipped over that you were doing Pleco not Anki. I have it on my phone actually so iā€™ll look into that more. Iā€™ll need to remember how to port courses from memrise to Anki/Pleco in the future but hopefully this Decks thing isnā€™t too bad. We will see in a couple weeks! As for now youā€™ve inspired me to look into handwriting/app writing once again!

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Hey there! Just wanted to tell you how much I am still enjoying the course. I am only on level 25 after doing 10 words a day. But every little step counts right? I can feel extremely proud when I finish the course :partying_face:

I have been using the words I have been learning to jazz up my vocabulary a bit. For example I have a tutor on verbling and when I throw in some of the words I learned in the course in my sentences she loves it :grinning:

Thanks for such a great course!

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č°¢č°¢ä½ ēš„ę”Æꌁļ¼Thanks so much for your kind thoughts! It sounds like you are making great progress! :muscle: If you have any questions or need for changes on the course, please feel free to reach out! :smile: åŠ ę²¹ļ¼

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I am enjoying the course but the synonyms are REALLY getting irritating now. For example we have a choice between č¾¹å¢ƒ and č¾¹ē•Œ for ā€˜borderā€™ (both bj anyway). I really appreciate the work you have done, but the issue seems to be that the system actually often chooses synonyms as the possible answers so making the problem worse and worse as you go on through. Is that wired in or can it be modified?

Hi there, I made an update as directed. Iā€™m not sure there is a real solve for this issue unless we start going 1 to 1 in usage. (E.g. for this change I made č¾¹ē•Œ border and č¾¹å¢ƒ frontier.)

Itā€™s not wired in by the system, so I can adjust to whatever you need. Feel free to message me about any updates and Iā€™ll tweak :grin:

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