[Course Forum] For all courses created by @pdao

What is the name of the course:
TOCFL Courses

What is the level that has the issue or question (if you remember it):
All

What is the nature of the issue or question that needs attention:
I love your TOCFL courses. I want to practice them English -> Chinese. What’s the best way to accomplish this?

@jay_lee ~ thank you for your response. If you choose any of the 4 TOCFL courses, and select any of the letter-based levels that have the word “Definitions” in parenthesis, you will learn the written and spoken Chinese Character(s) and the associated English definitions. Sometimes you will be tested English -> Chinese and sometimes Chinese -> English, but the end result is the same. Both ways teach you Chinese character recognition (either visually or audibly). There is no level that specifically only tests you on English -> Chinese. The courses teach the Traditional character set, not the Simplified character set. Thanks.

Is there any way you could provide me file a csv/spreadsheet that contains
the information you used to create the course?

Not at this time.

Hi
TOCFL 4 暗 and 按 are mixed up in some of the typing parts. It’s a bit confusing~

Thanks for the course thoanan

@11172 I am on my way back to the US now. I will take a look at this once I finally get settled in again.

@11172 ~ as expected, my doctors have kicked me off Memrise, so I will have to pass your request to the person who will curate my courses. Hopefully she can resolve any confusion. Happy learning !

I am taking the TOCFL Band B in about a month and the Level 3 & 4 courses were really helping me with the vocab. I nearly finished the Level 3 course and I was about 1/3rd of the way through level 4; however, it appears that both of these courses have disappeared… And now I’m completely freaking out that I’ve lost everything and they’ve been deleted! So… what’s up with the courses??? O.O

Per my doctor’s advice, I am quitting Memrise. All my courses were deleted this morning. I’m sorry if this inconveniences your studies. There are probably other courses available.

Hi @pdao,

I’m so sorry to hear your news. You are a ‘giant’ of Memrise and, if they had a “Hall of Fame”, you would be my nomination to be its first member.

The help you have given people through your courses and your insightful contributions to the forum over the years have been tremendous.

My thoughts are with you!

Alan

very very sorry to hear this. I wish you strengh, hopefully you’ll regain your health soon enough

@pdao Very sorry to hear about your health and wish you a speed recovery. Thank you for all you’ve done for Memrise and it’s users over the years.

Thank you to everyone for their kind thoughts and words. This will be my final posting in the forum.

Memrise, has changed over the years since I, and many of us long-time users, have been participants. It is not the same product it was years ago. It has suffered growing pains, and sadly, is not the same product I enjoyed when I first encountered it. But I won’t speak badly of the decisions the company makes of its product. Management has a business model it wants to pursue, and so be it.

What I did want to say, is that the strength of Memrise (IMHO) is not with its product, but with its user base. There is a reason why they are called “Community”, because for the most part that is how they seem to be. For the most part they band together, have common interests, and common goals. (They may not be the same common goals as Memrise management, but that is another story altogether.) I really wish and hope that one day Memrise will publicly recognize the wealth of talent and insight of the Community and take their experience and suggestions more seriously, rather than continuously ignore them.

There are hundreds or even thousands of intelligent, selfless, caring people in the Community who routinely offer their time, talents and insight to help make a better user experience. They offer suggestions, workarounds, edits, scripts, etc. They help with the “official” courses as well as those that are Community-created. (And I NEVER liked the term “official” ~ that is a very self-serving term used by Memrise staff. ALL courses on Memrise should be considered “official”). None of the caring folks in the Community are paid for their efforts. Most aren’t even positively acknowledged by other users, but still they offer their time, talents and insights.

As I leave, I would be remiss if I did not publicly acknowledge many who helped me along the way. Chances are they have helped most, if not all the users in one way or another. Many of their names are familiar to anyone who has spent any degree of time on the Community Forums. Obviously I cannot name everyone since the Forum only allows for inclusion of 10 usernames, so I give you: @alanh ; @DW7 ; @Hydroptere ; @neoncube ; @Arete_Hime ; @Atikker ; @TinyCaterpillar ; @DrewSSP ; @Diana.S ; @Lien .

I am old enough to remember the American singer Bob Dylan (in his original career). He had a line from one of his songs in the 1960s that stated “when you see your neighbor carrying something, help him with his load…” and that is what the caring people here in the Forum do. They help others. They help as neighbor helps neighbor. That is something that I hope never changes.

I am now receiving my treatments in the US, in a region where wilderness philosophy permeates with a mantra of “leave no trace”. I take that to heart, so that is why I deleted my courses. I leave no trace. I leave virgin ground for others. It may not be a popular decision for others (users of the courses), but I did what I felt I needed to do. I apologize if this decision inconvenienced others, but there is nothing preventing others from stepping forward and creating new replacement courses. It just takes hundreds of hours of time alone in front of a computer to plan, download, upload, debug, attach, detach, test, re-test, edit, publish (and then repeat ad infinitum). Any volunteers ?

Finally, to those of you who are global leaderboard watchers and followers, I leave you all with a gift. When I delete my Memrise account you will all get a bump up of the charts of one person. Enjoy your elevation ! :sunglasses:

Thank you all for the years together. I wish everyone well with your studies. But please remember this ~ life is short. Sometimes the lessons in life that matter most are not what we learn in school or on a computer screen, but in the world. So take some time to logoff, hug your family and friends, take in the beauty of a sunrise or listen to the sounds of the wind in the trees or the waves on the shore. It isn’t always the tangible things in life that matter, sometimes it is the intangibles. I was reminded of that, so that is why I am logging off from the cyber world and joining the real world.

Good-bye and good luck. As Memrise staff likes to say every once in a while in their postings “Happy Memrising !” :wink:

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Thank you for the honourable mention, @pdao. My time on this website is long passed but it’s nice to see that I had a positive impact on the community.

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Thank you @pdao. So sorry to hear… I’ve been away for a while… I totally
share your opinion.

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What a good piece of prose Pdao, and expressed with no hard feelings.

Sadly many of us are inclined to agree with you to some extent or other.

We will be thinking of you @pdao, and wish you well.

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It saddens me to lose you, @pdao. You’ve been such a positive presence on the forums for I think the entire time since I joined Memrise back in 2014. That said though, I understand completely, and who knows? I may be joining before very long.

Thank you for everything over the years. People like you, who encourage courtesy and humanity, rather than flaming and trolling, are what make online communities like this so much more pleasant and productive than so many others that are around.

I think I’ll make active efforts to follow your advice in your last paragraph some more. Sometimes it’s easier to work than relax, isn’t it? Haha…

I sincerely wish you the best in the future, @pdao. Please take care. Our thoughts are with you.

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Dear @pdao,

Thanks for everything, it’s been a pleasure having you here.

I wish you lots of strength and luck so you may feel better soon.

Warm regards,

Lien

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Thanks for sharing your love and wisdom and time @pdao. You’ve enriched my life, as you have that of many others, and my thoughts will be with you. And I wholeheartedly agree about spending time with family and friends and experiencing nature. One of my favorite things that you can do anywhere is to just look at the sky and the clouds being blown by slowly or quickly and how the sun hits them, or just to sit in the sun.

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@pdao - much gratitude for all you have given the Memrise community - courses, camaraderie, leadership, friendliness, kindness, inspiration. Best wishes in all your future endeavors.

@Lien - in the past, when a course creator decide to withdraw, Memrise would restore the content under a user name such as “admin” so that learners could continue the course. Is that no longer Memrise’s policy?

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