@ladan.jiracek3f
Hello, and thanks for the course!
Unfortunately, a correct answer is considered wrong, like this one:
Dear @Lien, would you please contact the course creator, because he seems to be inactive on the forum? thank you very much!
Hi Mila, maybe I’m misunderstanding but why do you believe that it is wrong? Since number 6 is plural, I’m pretty sure that the correct Nominative / Accusative article is “Die”. If we’re talking about Nominative, the correct answer would be “Jahreszeiten” since all the seasons of the year are male in this case.
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Number 6 isn’t correct. It’s plural.
The answer marked as being correct there, number 8, is not right either. That’s plural as well.
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Thanks for your reply, you are absolutely right! but it is stated like this in the course: I think that the course creator wanted to tell the students - in the beginning of the course - that we use “der” with males, and “die” with females (of course in singular). maybe he should use the singular of these words (mannlich, weiblich), so that no one get confused.
for days: we say der montag, der dienstag, etc… that’s why the course creater said that you use “der” with “tage”,even if we say “die tage”
The problem here is that you can choose different correct answers, but only one is accepted (that’s why I persist in thinking that unique choice questions are a handicap).
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@mila83 - thanks for the clarification. Based on your screenshot, I’m confident that I would get many of these wrong since the use of plurals for groups of singular genders would totally confuse me (kind of like the guessing as to which word they want on courses that just say “second alternate”). Hopefully the course creator or someone else can come along and provide some better clarification to improve the course.
I’m considering creating a course specifically for articles, adjectives & nouns - after I get courses finished for verbs.
But to be honest, Memrise is not setup to test on genders of nouns through articles in the nominative case (der, die, das, die) as it picks all “wrong” answers from the entire word list in the database, but cannot be told to offer specific wrong answers for each quiz. How this translates to you as a user/learner… you will be given an entire list of obviously wrong articles with 1 obviously right answer.
Even if short sentences were given where the proper article for the noun & case was removed, there is no way to guarantee (for example) der, die or das shows up when the right answer needed is den.
An idea I’m thinking of for learning articles (which really you want to be learning the gender, not an article that WILL change) is to get a list of german singular nouns (preferably all one gender) and just hammer them by memorizing, and substituting the “article” in your native language with the german article.
das Haus = das house (auf English)
der Bär = der bear (auf English)
die Frau = die woman (auf English)
- here would be a great place to add the plural too. ie “der Bär/Bären = der bear”
- from a mnemonics learning method, trying to incorporate the genders by name; masculine, feminine, neuter (or shortened versions) makes this “single packet” of information too long. A often mentioned idea of learning/making up a story to remember the gender is also a huge waste of time when the word itself is only 1, 2 or 3 syllables long to start with!
once you have associated it wrong (by guessing), it will take a lot of effort to stop yourself from second-guessing yourself going forward every time on the word.
and word lists that mix & mash genders, and also throw in plurals before the learner has a good couple hundred nouns & their genders solidified, only make this worse. Good luck!
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Hi,
I have emailed @ladan.jiracek3f to invite them to the conversation.
This issue is caused by the identical entrees in the second column.
Identical entries in the same column confuse our system, which results in duplicate multiple choice tiles and other related errors.
I’m afraid that at the moment, the only way to prevent these is to make every entry in this column different (e.g. by adding a different number or character to each of them).
Best wishes,
Lien
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