[Course Forum] 8,000+ Most Common Swedish Words - part 1

UPDATE ON WORD CHANGES #2

I have had to start a new post on this because I must have reached some word limit on the other post.

Level 57 - att reda is now en reda - with examples added

Level 59 - svart is now svårt - with examples added

Level 76 - **att förmå" is now "att forma - no examples yet, just a new mem

Please let me know if the old mems for “att förmå” are still visible to you, I flagged them as “inappropriate” and hope they will be removed, but I don’t know how quickly this happens.

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@Olivia.717:

Here is the forum for the first part of the sehiralti course. If you have any suggestions, just write them here!

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NEWSFLASH :slight_smile:

Just wanted to let you guys know that I have restarted doing the 3K (part 1 of the 8K+ Most Common Swedish Words course) so that I can make some changes to the entries and make them more comprehensive.

I am including the three main inflections for adjectives, so instead of just “gammal” for “old”, the entry now reads “gammal, gammalt, gamla”.

In addition, I am adding more phrases to the words, especially ones that are either very different from English, or, in some cases, those that are more or less identical.

Entries for the most common words are being extended and extra mems are being added, too. I am trying to keep the size of the entries short enough to keep them visible on the app, too, and am testing that by doing review and learning sessions on my phone and not just my Chromebook.

I hope that there aren’t too many objections to these changes! :wink:

Let me know if you can’t read any entries on your phones and I will shorten them.

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Well … I think I am going to have change this back to the old system because, if there are three words given on memrise, then you will be offered those three words plus two others on the app, which of course makes it ridiculously easy.

I have been purposely doing reviews on my phone to see what things look like on a phone screen and this is what happened when “stor” came up.

I think it would be better if I just added examples in the definition, as I have done with “stor”, where you have “en stor familj”, “ett stort hus” and “med stora bokstaver” as examples, but they are given like this:

  • “en ~ familj; ett ~t hus; med ~a bokstaver”

Perhaps if a few mems were added with the relevant words written out, this would also remind people that some of the adjectives change quite a bit depending on which words they are combined with.

Any thoughts???

UPDATE ON WORD CHANGES #3

Level 116 - ett läger is now ett lager

Level 112 - i mån av is now en mån

Level 108 - att falla is now att fälla

Level 43 - fjärde is now fast

@amanda-norrsken would you be interested in trying a dedicated channel in a discord server for this course? This suggestion came up by one of the members. You can run it, and maybe it would be helpful to you and the users. I don’t really know, to be honest, but we can try it and see. :laughing:

I’m referring to this announcement about the server: Community Memrise Discord server repost

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Will keep a short list here as well :slight_smile:

Summary
  • [v] samman (not: “tillsammans” or “ihop”) - would be nice to move (not … ) part to the prompt :slight_smile:
  • [v] en konsekvens - maybe would be nice to have (loan word) in the prompt
  • internet - webben
  • skola?
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Good suggestions! Keep them coming!

The prompt for “samman” landed in the wrong place by accident, but it’s only been there for a day or so, thank goodness!
“loan word” has been added to “en konsekvens”

If only I knew what a “dedicated channel in a discord server” actually meant :smiley:

Is it explained in that other thread? I am on holiday right now so don’t have as much memrising time available as usual.

Some of the descriptions are a bit long, especially when I’m using the app on my phone. More and more often I can only see the question and then four little tiny lines and I have to guess what might be behind each of them. Which then means I either have to exit, or get the answer wrong.

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I am sorry to hear that the longer descriptions are a problem for you when you use the app. Can you post some screenshots so I can see what you mean?

I have an Android phone and I can’t recall seeing “four little tiny lines” when I review on my Android phone. Do you have an iPhone?

Some of the definitions have been shortened already, because I noticed that some definitions were too big to fit into the boxes that appeared on my phone screen, and I am trying to work out what the maximum definition size is.

On the other hand, I have to mention that some of the previous definitions were way too short, actually, because there were single-word definitions for some common words which meant that numerous words had the same definition and therefore caused frustrations with users of these courses.

As a result, I tried to disambiguate words with overlapping meanings - say “en ort” vs. “ett ställe” vs. “en plats” (which previously all had the word “a place” as the required translation) by adding examples, common compound nouns and more translations. In my efforts to improve the definitions, some of the entries in the course have gotten a bit long, I’m afraid.

I am very grateful for your feedback and would be happy to shorten definitions to make the course easier to work with for app users. Can you take screenshots when this problem crops up in future and post them here?

Tusen tack i förväg!

Hi,

Here’s a screenshot of what I mean by tiny lines. I’m on android.

Hope the attachment works :slight_smile:

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OK, I can understand that that must be REALLY REALLY frustrating :frowning:

I assume this is happening when you review?

Is it not possible to scroll down and read what is in the tiny lines?

I am just wondering whether this is some kind of bug rather than a problem with the course. I can honestly say that I have never seen anything like this when reviewing. At the most, a box gets cut off, but I can usually see most of what is written.

It might be an idea to remove the app from your phone and re-install it. See if that helps things?

Another question: what level have you got to?

I have put your question in “web bugs - Android”, too, in case it is a bug problem rather than just the length of the entries.

I am re-learning the course, for various reasons, but one of them is to see what it looks like on a smartphone as I primarily used the web version when I first started using memrise in May 2014. I have only gotten as far as Level 37 on my second time around, so maybe the problem you are having will only crop up later.

To me it looks like this person either has a very old phone or a very outdated version of the app, rather than this being some issue with your course.

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Thanks for your input! I hope you are right, too, because it would be a pain in the bum having to shorten all the extended entries (although I AM doing so in the case of overly-detailed entries, partly for the reasons we discussed in another thread).

Hi,

It happens either reviewing or learning new words. I can’t scroll or do anything, just have to pick and hope :slight_smile: My phone is about two years old, app updates itself regularly.

I’m on about level 44 I think.

Oh well, I’ll just have to move onto laptop :slight_smile:

I am really sorry you are having these troubles :frowning:

All I can recommend is that you report it as a web bug. You have an Android phone, right? There is a special subforum for bugs on Android phones:

http://community.memrise.com/c/bugs/android-bugs

Please report this problem there.

I have just finished level 39, so I am not far behind you. Must review the next lot on my phone and see what happens.

I just reviewed almost 100 words on my phone, then learnt a few more and I still haven’t had the problems you report having.

I would simply de-install the app and then re-install it, it takes about a minute in all, but it might make all the difference.

From what I have understood, you haven’t tried this yet, so please give this a shot!

Hello! On Level 46, en ersättning now has:

a compensation, an allowance, a payment

I’d suggest adding “replacement” as a separate meaning:

  1. a replacement
  2. a compensation, an allowance, a payment
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Nice to see you again! I’ll make those changes right away!

Please let me know if you notice anything else in any of the other three levels.

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