Can someone explain how the levels work?

Hi to All,
I’m confused about how levels actually work, and I can’t find anything on this topic in the forum. Right now I’m closing in on about 2 million points and am on “Ziggy” Level 12. I’m also at the “level” of Italian 7 right now, with an indication that there are, I believe, 27 levels in Italian 7. So what happens after I complete Italian 7. I’m already doing some other courses listed under “Italian,” but after I complete all of the words for each level, there are no more “new words” to learn. So do I have to keep going back to “classic review” or “listening” or “learning with locals”? I understand that the level is a function of the total number of points that someone has, but again, what happens when I reach the end of Italian 7 with no more new words to learn? I’m just a little confused.
thanks!

I’m not sure what the point is of the levels. Seems like a waste of time to care about it.

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Hi @BLBrunetti,

You’ll find a very brief explanation of the ‘overall’ levels (and the points thresholds) in the FAQ area here. Many of us longer-term Memrise users preferred the badge system that we had before they replaced it with the “Ziggy” creature/abomination. But that’s another story (discussed elsewhere in the forum).

There’s no direct correlation between the so-called ‘Ziggy’ levels and individual course levels. It’s simply that all the points you earn from all the courses you are doing get added to your overall points total which, in turn, determines your overall ‘Ziggy’ level. :grimacing:

Courses may contain any number of individual levels from one upwards. In some courses, the levels relate to distinct topics. In others, they can be quite random. Looking at “Italian 7”, it has 34 levels. Levels 2, 4 and 6 will not display unless you have “Pro” membership (they’re ‘bot’ exercises).

When you have ‘learned’ all the levels of a course and there are no more “new words” showing, you have completed the course and the Memrise algorithm will ask you to ‘review’ them periodically. The gaps between reviews extends the more often you answer the tests correctly. You can also use the “Next Up” prompt, if you want to. There’s more on this in the FAQ area. “Italian 7” is the last of the courses produced by the Memrise people but you should be able to find alternative good quality, challenging courses that have been created by Memrise users if you search around in the Italian course index.

Good luck!

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Alanh, thanks so much for this very clear explanation. I had a feeling that the Ziggy levels based on total points earned from whatever course or courses the learner is doing–quite separate from the individual levels within specific courses themselves. Again, thanks!

“Course levels” are just a grouping of themes/topics in a course.

Mondly uses topics,
DuoLingo divides a tree into skills (this is the technical term which we talk about on the discussion forums; we do not use “themes/topics” here).

There are some (big) user-created courses which just add ALL words directly to the course list with no levels, e.g “50 languages”.
The drawback to this is you get the impression never to finish that soon, the longer the word list gets.

The advantage of a long words list is that you see ALL words/phrases in a single list and you can easily mark multiple words to be ignored at one time if you inititally recognize more.

I am not aware of a possibility to show all words from multiple levels in a single (hugh) IGNORE edit list where you can select/de-select words.
“Levels” grouping IMHO pretty much killed the (single) IGNORE edit list.

On the Android mobile app there will be benefits with course level grouping as you can first half-plant (three learning steps) for each 10 words in MULTIPLE levels if your review backlog queue is full and you do not want to fully plant the word (flower) in 6 steps so it would be added later in 4-5h to the review queue (spaced repetition SR).

However, you can use the ignore ("i hotkey) button whenever you learn a word and you can still flag it this way.

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Hi @BLBrunetti and @Geil ,

In addition to what has been said, there are (for completeness) I think, three types of levels.

1) The badge level linked to points:
See https://www.memrise.com/course/1601869/all-about-ziggy-no-difficult-typing/

and the old favoured system https://www.memrise.com/course/171267/memrise-rank-or-memrise-title-badges-no-typing/

2) Levels of study eg Italian 1, 2, 3 up to 7 (previously A1 etc - there is a thread about this.) Some user-created courses state GCSE or A Level or Uni level of study,

3) Levels within a course often used to break a long course into smaller achievable chunks or to separate groups eg insects from mammals and fish etc.
It also means you can finish and review ‘levels’ when you want and miss those you don’t want to learn.


PS apology to @alanh and @Thomas.Heiss who have answered this already! (I had the question come up in my occasional “while you were away you missed” email.)

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