[Site Feedback] Quality of user created mems

I obviously use mems differently than you do! I like grammar guides and word etymology descriptions. Pictures doesn’t function for me because if I have already made a connection to that phrase in my mind, it’s already buried into my brain. For instance, if I learn Swedish, there are lots of words similar to English or German or they are international, there are words that mean something else in other languages that I’m familiar with, there are words that are funny, and there is a group that I don’t know how to overcome…

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@Uczalka, really?

it was possible to create picture-based mems in the WebApp as recently as a year ago

When you say “WebApp”, do you mean the website? If so, I am able to upload picture without problem. The following screenshot is my Chrome on PC at work, but it works equally fine with my Chrome on MacBook at home. Are we talking about the same thing? :sweat_smile:

@daydaywong: Maybe I wasn’t precise enough - sure, you can upload pictures but you need to have them saved on your drive first. Previously when you were creating a mem, a window would pop up with an internal search engine where you could just find various pictures online and choose one. The current process takes definitely too long for me to bother, you need to first find a pic, then download it and then upload it again to the site. It used to be so convenient… :’(

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Here’s a discussion in the old forum when this change happened, about a year ago:

http://www.memrise.com/thread/1356041/

@wynrich on that post commented with a copy of Ben’s comment from the uservoice feedback forum, explaining why they removed image search from mem creation:

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Thanks @cos for pointing this out.

I am a strong advocate for the Keyword method for learning vocabulary. It’s fun and effective to encode each syllable (or sometimes sequence of syllables) with something familiar. It’s even more satisfying when these encoding(s) are able to be put together in a picture (extraordinary or not).

To @risgrynsgrot’s point:[quote=“risgrynsgrot, post:12, topic:120”]just think of it as a happy accident if someone else makes a mem that works well for you.[/quote]

I still want to see if someone else’s mem instantly rings a bell for me first. Am I the only one doing this? I bet not. Would people give up if nothing fits and just pick what others liked most? Very likely. For me, I sometimes spend hours to create mine, yet some other times I give up as well. I guess as long as there is no moderator for mem creation, quality still varies and a potentially long list of mems (good or bad) will eventually change the user behavior of attempting to “find” vs “create”, yet worst of all, “give up”.

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For me, this is an example of a great mem. Although we are talking about learning sentences, phrases and grammar, not words.

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I agree with this. Which is why I am confused that Memrise doesn’t have other users mems hidden as the default. Or at least an easier way to change it.

why should be mems made by others hidden by default???

I agree. I am old enough now to know that my creativity doesn’t necessarily always allow me to devise the types mems that I have chanced upon and they just work. Some people just have the knack for it.

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Using other peoples’ mems work great for me as long as they’re good mems. If I had to create a mem for every word I learned, I’d learn fewer words…

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In general, you’re supposed to make mems for yourself — you’re not really even supposed to use other people’s mems.

Yeah some of the connections I make to remember something are totally weird and I’m sure wouldn’t really make sense to others even if I tried to explain them.

Though I do like having the option of using others mems because I found a lot of ways to more easily memorize something that I would then just rote memorization because I can’t come up with my own mem for it.

An example is one someone made for the Japanese Hiragana ふ (pronounced fu) they found a picture of a guy doing Kung Fu where he is in a position that looks like the symbol - something I would have never known on my own but I never forgot it after that.

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Can anyone tell me whether you can add or control the mems in the iPad app? Currently I’m seeing lots that are in other languages - or that contain offensive language - and I would prefer to just see the Memrise official ones. Or to make my own, but I don’t see any options for this - or any way to flag something inappropriate.

I don’t understand how Memrise can suggest that children use this app, or that teachers use it, when I’m getting “mems” with f*ck and “ass licking” in them! How do I get rid of all this?!

I wouldn’t care so much if the Memrise one appeared first, and I had to scroll through to see the others… but I don’t want to have to swipe past the ass licking and f*cking before I get to any useful content.

I really hope there’s a setting I’m missing here?

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I don’t know about the app, but in the web version you can see a little flag in the upper right corner of the mem box (hover mode). Click on that if you want to flag a mem.

Another solution: you can write a message in here, address it to some members of the team - even start a new topic - and mention explicitely the users/usernames (creators of those mems), the courses as well. You can see “under” the mem box, something like “user X / Y years ago”. Open the part with “ago” in a new tab, then you have a better view of the mem and of the user name; the user name is of course “clickable”

Thank you for this. It seems like the app is lacking most of the relevant features for mems - no way to select mems, make them, or flag them. I think I’ll do as you suggest by switching over to the full web version, then I can have a bit more control!

It is possible to just use the web version in Safari on the iPad, although it still doesn’t have the flag function, but it does allow you to make and select mems, so that’s an improvement at least.

Thanks for your help!

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What is a robot account (what does it look like, what is it for) ?

I found this topic since I was debating entering a mem I came up with and was wondering if darker subject matter, let alone that which may be offensive, is frowned upon.

The thing is that the more emotionally charged a mem is, the better it will stick, so I will use associations with words that I don’t use in conversation–there are even some I use that I wouldn’t share in a public forum like this so as not to encourage, support, or strengthen various viewpoints.

Anyway, I’m comfortable using anything, but others are clearly not, as such I would suggest that there be an age or ‘safe’ option established under a user’s profile, and when entering a mem you can indicate if it’s safe or not. Of course, we have to rely on users to make sure that mem’s are labelled appropriately since it’d be impractical to expect the site staff to review every submission, but that’s life. Maybe even a ‘safe,’ ‘moderate,’ and ‘uncensored’ scale of options would be advisable.

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I’m not if I’m posting this in the right spot or not, but what is the quickest way to find one of your own Mems which you want to edit?

Hi @Maxine_Downunder,

I’ve never found a really quick way.

If you know the course and level that the word is in, you can use the Preview feature to scroll through that level to the item. If you don’t, there is a really good search method that user meh2 describes in a post dated Sep 28 in this topic: Locate Specific Reviewed Word

Otherwise, it’s a case of going to your Profile page and then scrolling through your list of mems created. As these are listed in order of date created, you may be able to speed the search up a bit by using the page number selector at the bottom of the page, if you know roughly how long ago you created the one you are looking for.

It’s all a bit ‘clunky’, I’m afraid!

Good luck!

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Thanks @alanh, that’s really helpful. I know which course, but not the level. I have spent a lot of time in the past scrolling through looking for Mems - but before I did that again today, thought I ask in the form. Thanks for the link to the older post - great info there also.

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No problem! Hopefully, meh2’s search method should take you to the level page quite quickly then.

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