Rollout of the new dashboard and learning sessions experiences to all our customers

I no longer get to hear the audio because of this. I guess I type too fast. Well, I do sometimes get to hear the first syllable, but that is more irritating than helpful.

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While learning new words, that plant growing icon constantly flipping into view on the right side of the screen is very distracting. I’m supposed to be looking at the words not at some picture to the side.

I’m really trying to use this new version, but it is like death by a thousand paper cuts. Every little annoyance builds up telling me to just move on. I hate to consider that since Memrise was so helpful to me in the past.

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This is just a redesign of the old system; they’re apparently planning on making an entirely new site with an entirely new format.

Not only planning, but already have under construction another website called Memworld which is going to be their priority and to which some parts of Memrise wil migrate. I’m talking about it.

Ben should step down

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Comment of the year.

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That memworld is even more hideous. Somebody sure loves fat colors.

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Yeah seeing what Ben wrote I’m not excited about memworld. It’s a really broad description of whatever they’re making. I don’t really want to have conversations with native speakers. I don’t learn that way in my spare time. I just want pictures associated with vocab. You don’t need all these “rich” and tech heavy solutions to a problem that wasn’t there.

This second part if what we need to add in to the Memrise product. We are doing this in a couple of ways:

1. We are building a separate site - MemWorld - that is a collection of immersive experiences which learners are led through by native speaker “coaches”. This includes live video calls as well as video playlists and podcast selections. This is all free to use.

I want to give a little example of what this looks like:

** In MemWorld you might have a video call with a language coach and some learners. During the call some words and phrases come up that you want to learn.*
** At the moment you could make a UGC course on Memrise to learn those. However the course that you create would have no video and would have limited test types - no comprehension tests, no pronunciation tests, none of the other tests that are being developed.*
** In the future structure, a wordlist could be automatically generated for you on Memrise that has all the rich content of the official courses. You also would not have to make it yourself.*
** The same thing could happen when you watch a video or listen to a podcast: any immersive experiences you have can be dynamically converted into a wordlist on Memrise that has rich media test types integrated into it.*

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So far my two biggest complains about the new design are the following:

  • the option to mute audio is gone;
  • I prefer the old way the “difficult words” were working.

I’ve searched my browser’s settings and found an option to mute audio. That disables it for all web sites but it may be a good idea after all. Still I would like to see a mute audio option in Memrise’s profile. Alternatively you may create a new browser’s profile with a muted audio.

Finding a workaround for new “difficult words” was a little bit more trickier. First I’ve installed the “Custom Style Script” extension in my browser (in the past I would have installed “Stylish” but it seems like in recent years new developers use that extension to spy on users; anyway, whatever extension you choose make sure to do some research on it’s security first). Then I’ve added the following styles for app.memrise.com:

div[class*=sc-o]::after {
  content: "";
}
h2[class*=sc-1]{
  color: rgb(252, 250, 242);
}

The first rule removes the text from input box, so you don’t see what you are supposed to type. The second rule blends the word with background so you do not see it, but if you are unsure you may select the word with your mouse to make it visible.

So far I’ve only tested it on one course I’m currently learning. Any suggestions are welcome. Hope this helps.

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It was mentioned elsewhere that you can mute audio on the web version by clicking on the tab in which Memrise is open in your browser and then selecting mute from the list. The claim was that, because you can do this via the tab, they don’t need to add an option to the website. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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“Stylus” was the extension I started using after the “Stylish” spyware issue - Stylus (browser extension) - Wikipedia - described as a fork of Stylish without the analytics.

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I’m sad about the lack of mems, but credit where credit is due - I’m loving the new learning style including listening and dictation exercises (and they’re on a community course!). Thanks, memrise :smiley:

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I was originally sad about the removal of the auto-acceptance on Japanese input, but it’s actually helping me learn the words better as I have to commit and then go through difficult words if I get it wrong (rather than trying like three variations of it before finding the correct answer and gaming the SRS) - so might be a blessing in disguise!

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Gee, just took another look at that new → Memworld site. What on earth must be going on in the Memrise design department. :dizzy_face: :scream:

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You know, it is a bit of a drag that there are all these core users of Memrise with a common set of complaints / grievances, yet a strong sense of disengagement from the @MemriseSupport team.

Sure, some responses have been given, but they largely ignore the biggest issues (e.g., reviewing “difficult” words), are confusion/contradictory (e.g., mems), or just unsatisfying non-answers (“we knew there was a bug before the hard rollout”). We all want Memrise to succeed. However, if feels like this lack of engagement is fueling a users vs developer thing.

Is it so impossible for Memrise to just branch the infrastructure into a frozen, long-term stable release (2021 legacy) and keep the current branch as the “main” release?

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Way back courses were shown in three ways: most popular, newest, and all courses in the language. Mems could be liked or disliked. Flowers were shown dying if the words they represented weren’t “watered” by revision. There was a facility where users could communicate with each other. Profiles could contain personal details if users wished. There was a great sense of camaraderie between learners. Then Memrise sacked the cat and everything went to pot.

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I never liked the “Speed review” and always wanted to have an option in settings that would disable “Speed review” for all courses. I see there is a way to report bugs to developers. Is there a way to suggest a new feature?

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Wow I didn’t know this… Yet another great feature killed for no apparent reason?! @James_g_memrise mind explaining a bit? All criticisms aside, a thousand thanks for your continuous constructive engagement!

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It was considerably before my time I’m afraid.
The courses are sorted by popularity right now, and you can see all of them by scrolling can’t you so we’re not missing anything there?
But sorting by ‘new’ would mean anything could be shown with no regards to quality so I don’t see how that would be a good thing for most instances without adding ratings and quality metrics.
The new system will have much superior discovery functionality than we currently have.

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@James_g_memrise, will there be any comments regarding this apparent discrepancy?