Sure, for example the one I already gave in my other thread. I am learning French vocabulary, and one of my main issues is remembering the grammatical gender of a word. I will often be sure of the word itself, but I will not be sure whether I should put “un” or “une” before it. With the new change, I can type one and then see it not accepted and know it had to be the other one. So, as others have pointed out, it will be a matter of my personal honor system keeping me from changing the article and having it get accepted. Either I will cheat and my intervals will get messed up, or I have to manually give myself the wrong answer I had at first typed, which is frustrating and feels bad.
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definitely not so… It does mess up with the IME (and gives too many hints) when typing Japanese, or Hanzi…
why do you have to continously ruin learning… interacting in real life, and in real time in writing etc has nothing to do with pictograms on the screen, unless your written interaction is limited to money from the wall and buying tickets from machines…
I was planing to quit memrise 6 months- 1 year from now, because I still have my own courses to learn in here and the Memrise Japanese with Kanji. But … what for
anyone, a script to disable the virtual keyboards? and to disable the auto-accept? @neoncube, @cooljingle, please
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while the keyboard change is fine with languages like finnish, and i don’t see a change in japanese, but it blown my mind seeing whole russian alphabet. i just wont be able to write the answer in time. i already had a problem with some really long words, but now? maybe, very maybe, in few weeks i’ll get hold of it, but right now i just feel discouraged.
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I came to the forum today after doing my German lesson to complain that my answers were being accepted without me clicking on the arrow, and to ask that the program be put back to the way it was yesterday. I’m glad I found you and others commenting on the change already. I don’t like the change because it make things go so fast that I cannot contemplate my answer and think about what I am doing. As a language learner, I need time to learn, or memorize, what I’m doing by thinking about the answer and committing it to memory, e.g. “I put der (die, or das) what is the ending of the noun that might help me decide in the future, are there any other clues that can help me remember the article. I’m having trouble remembering the correct spelling of this word. I got the word correct this time, let me study the word for a few seconds, to reinforce the correct spelling in my head.” These important seconds of reinforcing the correct word, sentence structure, articles, spelling etc. have been taken away from us. Please, Memrise, get rid of auto-accept and change the lessons back to the way they were yesterday, or at least give us the ability to choose whether we want to use auto-accept or not.
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liked this.
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Honestly that is the best example I have heard so far. Genders. That is a fair point, I just think if the reasoning is because you should be punished for typing a different synonym it did not like or if you made a typo, because it’s better for the learning process is sort of nonsense. Of you might be more inclined to cheat to look up the answer (as if the timer does not exist), and as if auto accept has anything to do with that… Pretty sure people cheat without auto accept.
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As I said before auto-accept is great!
I’ve just reviewed almost 600 words and it’s real joy.
Sometimes letters under row act like prompts. It’s helpful too.
So, memrise, if you’re planning change smth please leave this option too, cuz I’ll probably use it.
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For me it ruins my Korean learning. To have already 8 syllables to choose from, makes it far to easy and (like somebody already mentioned) more like a multiple choice test. Please turn it of again or make it an option to choose.
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@BeaTrisy auto-accept definitely doesn’t improve my learning experience. So, how about making that optional if it was mixed feedback in the first place?
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I know that, I can see…
“oriental” languages … Russian and Greek for ex are not “oriental” languages (about Russian you know this, isn’t so), but fully fleged Indo-European ones (and Hindi might be oriental but related to German and close to Latin etctetc, because “indo-european”!)
i don’t want “letters”, not for Spanish, not for Dutch,not for Mandarin or Japanese, they transform everything into tapping tests and I want to know a language, not to guess it. If I am too tired for typing I simply take no-typing courses.
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Here it’s filter for ublock or adblock to block it:
www.memrise.com##.clearfix.keyboard
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3 issues when working on Japanese using chrome, mac and ime keyboard.
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as you type the word, it automatically recognizes the word. Not good. It’s easier to get the correct answer. It’s nearly impossible to make mistakes. need an option to press ‘enter’ to know if we are right or wrong, not being automatically given.
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movement from one word to the next is slower. Unlike the previous version when typing a word, just click enter (your either right or wrong) then you go to the next word.
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It seems like the new site update has an issue wherein after I get a word right and get to the next word, I always have to delete the previous word in the textbox. This takes up a lot more time.
Hope all these an be resolved soon. Thanks!
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I’m fine with the auto-accept, but the virtual keyboard in Korean is now missing the space bar, so I have to switch between virtual and physical keyboard to type, which is… not ideal.
Yeah, synonyms probably should be accepted in most cases, but I’d say that’s mostly up to the course creators, and many do allow this (like the French course I am studying). Although some people would say ‘true’ synonyms don’t exist and so courses often try to teach the subtle differences between apparent synonyms. Which is why it also bugged me when I got it corrected trying to type “une partie” when the right answer was “une part”, again because of the auto correct.
Btw, love your avatar picture 
But you seem to have done the opposite for the website keyboard! For non-language tests at least, there used to be no characters. Now there are scrambled letters of the answer. It’s awful. And pointless. My eight-year-old, who is bang into his memrise, has been laughing at how sillily easy it’s going to be now to ‘remember’ (i.e. not really remember) capitals etc. For my class of pupils, who I have only just got into realising what a valuable tool memrise can be for them, the thing is now worthless.
I hope this has been an error, for you seem to have implemented the opposite of what you wished. I hope you can revert this behaviour on the website soon.
I noticed in French that this wasn’t happening - just a keyboard with the special characters of the language - just as you’d wish it. But the non-language courses have been utterly spoiled.
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Please add an option to remove the virtual keyboard. I actually learned to type on the Korean keyboard by forcing myself to use it for Memrise. While I understand that this route isn’t for everyone, the typing tests now test something very different: recognition, the ability to read a word, rather than the ability to produce it. I have no problems with reading the words. I have many problems, however, with being able to produce them. I use the typing tests to help me memorize spelling (in addition to the word itself) because there’s some kinesthetic memory in there of how to spell it. This is extremely useful for me in my university Korean class quizzes and tests.
Also, a note on the typing tests in general: because there’s such a limited number of options for potential answers, it’s quite easy for me to pick out what should be the right answer here: 김치. You should include at least a few more to make this at least a little more challenging.
Oddly, in the Korean tests, they’re also very specific now about which characters I type – and not everything in there is Korean! Korean itself doesn’t really care very much about spacing and punctuation, not nearly as much as English does, in my experience, so it seems counter-intuitive that now things like dashes, that are merely meant to communicate to the learner that it’s a particle, and aren’t really meant to be tested on, are a part of the answer. You used to be able to toggle this somewhere too, in order to change the specificity of the typing test grader, but I either can’t find it (and trust me, I looked), or this was removed as well. It was pretty well hidden, from what I remember, so it should seem that this would not confuse less advanced users who require less features, so I’m not sure why this was removed either.
Also, I am seconding the opinions on auto-accept: either get rid of it or make it a toggle-able feature. I need to be able to confidently come up with the right answer, not just fumble around until I get the correct one. It just assumes that you knew what you were doing, which, unfortunately for me, was not the majority of the time. I want to be able to decide when I’m guessing and when I’m just key-smashing.
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Absolutely awful. It’s easy mode for people who prefer confidence boosts over effective learning. I’m done with Memrise until there is an option to disable it.
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Auto-accept and suggested characters make this too easy. Please make this an “on/off” option, I stopped using the mobile apps because it wasn’t conducive to effective learning like the web version.
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This is horrible because it doesn’t seem to work on all words (possibly alternate translations) so it’s hard to get into a rhythm when some need enter and others don’t.
Please provide an option to disable it.
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Hate it! You have a Database column settings to select the keyboard we want to appear. If we chose blank, why would you take the liberty to force characters onto the screen? You don’t have to make changes mandatory, as in “take it or leave it”. You can make these things configurable through settings. How hard is it to add a flag “turn on auto-accept” and “add minimal keyboard”. This shouldn’t be rocket science. You can add features without forcing them on people who were happy with the way they were.
Want to make a change? Finally give us the ability to remove certain wrong answers from multi-select that keep showing up. That’s something people actually want. Or how about giving us the ability to set the timer length or turn off. Again, that’s something people actually want.
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