Memrise looks so sad now. I hate this change!!!
@BeaTrisy, too.
I am wondering whether the fact that the whole mem thing has gone - THE best thing about memrise, IMHO - has something to do with the majority of users on memrise now being app users who only use their phones for their (mem)rising activities?
I know a guy who uses memrise - but only on his phone - and who doesn’t make mems. If you use your laptop or PC, then it is easier to make good mems with pictures and text and so on. It is probably more difficult on a phone. I wonder if this is part of the move towards focusing on the memrise-created courses, the app, and smartphone users and, instead, moving away from the minority of users - like myself - who use their laptop.
I wonder if “(mem)rise - learning made joyless and lonely” - is going to abandon those users who don’t use their phones and the memrise-created courses??? Are we going to see all our community-created courses disappear, the same way that we are now no longer able to see each other’s mems?
Is this move part of something more sinister afoot?
How many people on this thread are PRO memrisers?
I wonder if it would make any difference if we all cancelled our pro memberships?
I certainly don’t feel that I will be getting my money’s worth - nor can I do what I liked to do here, i.e. create mems in the hope that they would help other users.
So what is the point of this place, in that case?
Can I just mention that some of the posters here have the most points OF ALL YOUR USERS.
TinyCaterpillar #185, Hydroptere #27, me #60, Arete_Hime #201. I’m sure I accidentally overlooked some, too. You are insulting and offending the very ones who have devoted the most time to this website. THEY ARE THE ONES COMPLAINING!
Once again, you have installed changes without consulting your base on a CROWD-SOURCED WEBSITE. If the illogicality and unreasonableness of this has passed you, surely you could use some mems in your life to recall all of the complaints you’ve received each time you’ve done something like this. But no, mems are gone.
There have been threads upon threads with upvotes, likes, and comments on how best to improve Memrise rather than detract from it and debase the quality. Instead of having substantive discussion based around these well-thought, potential implementations, you’ve decided to do something no one has brought up. How can you justify this lack of responsibility coated in sheer temerity – ignoring your userbase?
I was wondering if you had seen this. It is despicable, isn’t it?
Just throwing away all that knowledge, all that stuff we did for each other!
I can barely bring myself to work on those Swedish courses now I am wondering if THEY will disappear next week, too, seeing as they are only “community-created” courses …
I used to do this all the time…
you, memrise, had an option, 4 years ago, which allowed the course creators (and the contributors) to delete very ugly mems. Instead of re-instating that… (what resources would have that eaten, I wonder???);
you decided to take mems away. It is really hard to understand, what are you trying to achieve? Make memrise only for teens between 13-22, teens from certain countries and backgrounds? But you’re grooming (only together with many others, of course) generations that will be useless on the “labour market”:I, as someone who every now and then has to employ somebody, certainly don’t need immature people whose sole competence is to google, facebook, weiboo and baidu etc (and that in a childish manner)… nodoby needs such employees, definitely not in the age of machines and algorithms…
this decision of yours makes me very sad indeed…
I’m actually anxious if memrise will sometime delete community-created courses. Gotta get all my learning done beforehand then dash!
lol, @Hydroptere, I’m near that age bracket. Memrise is clueless and delusional to think people as young as 13 aren’t exposed to “offensive material.” I don’t know what handbook they’ve decided to employ lessons from, but surely not one that has been dispensing common sense.
Would it be obnoxious if I tagged all the staff into this thread?
Maybe you should have given people time to download the useful memes. On the other hand market abhors a vacuum. If you do not have memes, someone else will do this.
ps
I wonder, who gives you more money. 13 years old, or adults.
Exactly what I was thinking
I recall a while back some mom came here on the forum crying that her son saw an offensive meme. I hope memrise is not changing things because of what an idiotic soccer mom said.
I have no idea - about tagging the staff. It seems they strongly believe that a slimmed-down phone-app can pay the wages and the bills and “nothing else matters”. I don’t even believe this move is about “offensive material” (personally I am offended by destruction of mother nature, existence of people dying of hunger and curable diseases, by drones, economics wars, hypocrisy, propaganda, prozelitism, ignorance of history, etc - wow, a long list :))
I have no idea, really. And sorry for not being able to bring in something positive.
(Some weeks ago I’ve decided as well to speed up learning in some courses, in the alternative memrise erases community-created courses. It seems @cos was right, unfortunately…)
— [email protected] wrote:
I use mostly app and used mems too (we could see 7 first ones).
Some were really funny. I wouldn’t have ever thought them out by myself.
so sad… if I had known maybe I would have saved the best ones somehow
27.04.2017 19:31 kirjutas kuupäeval “Amanda Norrsken” <
[email protected]>:
No, exactly. Your list is what matters, and learning languages is, above all, a way to connect and understand each other. Obfuscating this goal steers in the wrong direction to even attempt to solve those issues. (Not trying to aggrandize the point of Memrise because like you’ve said, the ethos seems profit-driven rather than nobel.)
By the by, you’ve been a polyglot crush since I’ve joined the site!
I can only endorse the long discussion, that I can’t believe that we will no longer be able to choose other people’s mems! Surely that was in the mission statement as it was the way we were encouraged to learn.
I too have created mems for my courses to help others learn and they were there as part of the way of helping people learn.
If I understand the message, our mens still exist. Perhaps we (Creators and Contributors) should now put them into an Attribute column so at least other will then see them when learning. (Is this a work-around?)
PS It was sad enough when we lost the ability to easily create Mems using images that were automatically presented to us, but this is tragic.
PPS I agree, the real reason for deleting Mems must be the exponential growth of users and courses and hence the storage required.
Terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible idea. My wife and I - both paid-for users - are both simultaneously learning Greek. Although it’s quite time-consuming, creating Mems is an awesome way to remember words and spelling. She and I create Mems for each other, as we’re doing the same courses. This saves us a ton of time. But we won’t be able to do so any more. At the very least, the idea of @jimnicholson to allow the selection of Mems from users that you follow should be implemented.
Try this @spdl79 - she saves the mem she has created and sends it to you. You then use it to ‘create’ a mem for yourself.
Thanks for the tip. Yes, we could do that, and may have to, but that’s also very time-consuming and messy.
I don’t understand this bit
Can you help me out?
(muchas gracias, bedankt, makasih, xiexie, grazie mille, Danzig
the way Memrise is approching learning nowadays reminds me of a very old song (i.e. before even the generation of my parents??) … you do speak some German, or even more if I remember well (old fashioned Austrian variant would be better :) ? … der legendäre Wilde, Qualtingers “G’schupften Ferdl”, auf seiner Maschine: er weiß zwar nicht, wohin er will, doch Hauptsache, er ist schneller dort… Remembers me of the Ferdl, he does not know where he wants to, but he does knows he wants to get there faster )
on topic: they should put all the mems back where they belong and allow course creators/contributors to delete those very “ugly” ones