Thank you for your time to reply, but please understand that I’m trying to look for a way to have the days lessened for every course so that it’ll be alot quicker to do and would appear everyday in my review tests. 50 days of wait before that word would appear in the review test is a long time and I wouldn’t know if I’ve already forgotten that word until it appears again. I also needed to finish goals in this website, busuu, and duolingo giving me no time to check on each category if I have forgotten words already. (trying to study 3 languages at the same time btw.)
I know very well that my issue is very complicated but I would greatly appreciate all the help that can be given.
P.S. I apologize for all the troubles that this post is giving to those who are reading this and I thank you for spending time to scan over these and try to solve my complicated problem. I truly appreciate your thoughts and help.
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if he only does it to gather points, he’ll get tired of it soon enough
It’s not about the points dear good sir, it’s about the convenience of doing all the tasks/courses quickly.
You will be fastest if you have longer periods between words.
Imagine if you have a course with 1000 words.
What is faster: doing all 1000 words every day, or only doing those words which are about to wilt and be forgotten?
As far as I know, Memrise does spaced repetition and adjusts the spacing to correspond roughly to your memory.
If the algorithm is like Anki’s, it’s likely that the spacing will be tuned such that you may misremember about 10% of words (because every 1% better retention causes a disproportionally higher workload – which means that you will not repeat things quickly – you might have to repeat 150 words a day instead of 30; which do you think is quicker?).
So I’m still not quite sure what your goal is. If you want quick work every day, allow the spaces to get bigger.
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If you want to learn everyday and there is no words to review just learn new ones and in 4 hours time there will be
I see, so it means that I’ll just have to deal with it…
I was hoping for an extension or script that allows you to cycle through all the learned words with one click and replace the memrise algorithmic pattern with it, or with any other ways. But at least you’ve settled my mind. I’ve been burning brows just to find that script for my particular issue but to no avail. In any case, I really would like to thank all of you guys for putting up with me and trying to help me out. Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much for the suggestion, I really appreciate it. However I’ve been doing this everyday, learning new words; causing me to forget some words I’ve learned in the past courses (e.g. Korean 1, Japanese 1-old version), so in my case, since I come to this site everyday and do all the tasks in my chosen courses, the site’s algorithm moves the words from the initial courses for reviewing to a further date (almost 2 months is ridiculous). Although, I know i could just check back to each course, each category and each word for words or sentences I’ve forgotten but it is very time consuming, and anyway, how can one know something from which he/she can’t remember?
But in any case, I’m pretty sure nothing can be done with this. However, I truly, TRULY appreciate all the efforts you people gave just to try and solve my problem, even though this problem doesn’t have any implications on any of you, and also for your time shared in this post. Once again, Thank you very much and have a good one.
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the more you give your brain to remember, better it gets remembering things. I also forget things but if they com up for review I remember them much longer… even if I have to do DW cycle. I know nothing about scripts and I don’t use them.
you know there will be time when there is so many words to water that you wish there was less of them. I learned some french and then didn’t do nothing with french for 3 months (very busy times) and I had forgotten major amount of the vocabulary (especially the spelling)… it was much easier to learn those words again because they already were in my subconscious
So my advice is (if you want it) do not worry so much about forgetting some words , eventually you will remember them
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try the “speed review”: works “great” with non-Latin script, in the sense you make often mistakes. What you get wrong in the speed review comes up for watering in 4 or 12 hours, usually (at least in my case)
(and no, you cannot compare learning Korean and Japanese with learning French)
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@ Furst_Wasserbrakken - What are your learning goals?
If you are cramming for an exam, and that is your immediate focus, then sure, try to get around Memrise’s algorithm and constantly review. Do speed review, or review level-by-level, or even copy out the words by hand. Those methods may give a temporary short-term boost to your retention.
But if your goals involve long term language success, then you’d do better to rely on Memrise’s spaced recall method, because it actually produces stronger, more durable memories. Really. Some items will be forgotten, and you re-learn them. Other items will be remembered in a fashion that strengthens the memory. There’s actual science behind this stuff.
You’re at a gym, and your trainer suggests 10 difficult reps. You say, no, it’s better for me if I do 100 easy reps.
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Well, I’ve been doing the speed review quite often and it is a great tool for learning quickly, however with its pros, comes with it some cons, especially with courses with non-modern Latin characters. I would love to continue our discussion here but it’ll be another topic, I’ve already posted my issue with speed review in this post: Is There a Way to Slow Down The Timer for The Speed Review?
And oh, Thank you very much for your suggestion.
I see, I currently use an electronic dictionary along side with these language learning websites to jot down all the words I’ve learned since some words are quite different between the words in the websites’ versions and the e-dictionary version so I update it in my e-dict.
As for my goals in learning, I need to learn most of the standard vocabulary used in daily life in Korea within 3 months for the 2 year military service there, then within a year or a year and a half, learn the remaining vocabulary for Japanese and move there for cooking training.
It might be a bit daunting, but I’m trying to find ways to make it a lot easier for me to learn these languages as soon as i can. So, I thank you for giving me suggestions in helping me in my endeavors.
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On the website (not the app): For any lesson where you feel the review spacing is too long or you don’t know the words as well as you’d like, you could browse to that lesson page, click the Options button, and select Restart. You’ll plant/learn each word again, and the review schedule will be reset.
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SRS approaches are geared to making learning more efficient by
spreading it out over a long period of time. If you are trying to
learn a language in 3 months then an SRS system like Memrise isn’t the
most suitable.
Quizlet might be more what you are looking for. I haven’t used it
myself but I think it is geared more towards people who have shorter
term learning goals. It also shows you learning material in a variety
of ways which might give you more flexible recall.
Alternatively, Anki although it is an SRS system, you might be able to
customize it to provide something more to what you want.
Anki ia an SRS but you have lots of parameters that you can adjust to
your needs. For example, you could set the maximum interval to a very
small number, say 5 days. Then you would be guaranteed that you would
be tested on each word at least 18 times within your 3 months study
window.
You would likely want to change other parameters as well (e.g. change
starting ease to 130%, etc)
So suppose you had a 3000 word deck. That would be 600 words a day.
At a rate of 15-20 reviews per minute (assuming no typing) that would
take 30-40 minutes each day to practise if you were getting 100%
recall. Any words you don’t recall correctly you could ask to see
again so you see them more often until they are so automatic that you
can recall them easily.
That would allow you to review 3000 words on a more frequent basis
than you could with Memrise. And it hopefully won’t take more than an
hour of your day. And if you do find the reviews are too frequent you
can just bump up the maximum to something like 7 or 10 days.
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Thank you very much, although it is not the solution I was hoping for; nonetheless it is a great alternative that I very much appreciate. I’ll check it out.
I agree with that. In the beginning words show up quickly. However, say you know a certain word quite well and have reviewed it, let’s say 10 times. How does Memrise know whether it will take you to forget that word in 2 weeks, 4 weeks, or 10 weeks? Of course, they will take an educated guess somewhere in the middle that is hopefully based on some scientific research and probably fine for 80% of the users.
But perhaps there are users who need a review sooner - otherwise you might need to spend extra time relearning the word, which could have been avoided by one extra review a few weeks earlier.
Memrise says that if you are a PRO member, Memrise adapts its alogrithm based on your personal learning characteristic. Still, how do they know what the future holds? They might know by now that I need a second review on 2 hours, a 3 third in a day and a 4th in a week. But how can they know my memory strength (or better: memory lapse) for over, let’s say, 10 weeks?
A feature where we can ask for a sooner review would certainly be great. Or could ask for all words from in a certain range, for an exam.
And yes, you can press the review button and just review all the words of the course again, if Memrise doesn’t recommend a review right now, But I have experienced that if you do a lot of reviews, then you can’t do a review on a course again. That is fine for a course I studied yesterday, but not for a set of words that I reviewed 2 weeks (or longer) ago for the last time.
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To me the algorithm that determines whether you will strongly remember for long a word or not should be improved this simple way :
Words we make mistakes on, when reviewed, should always show up as a full typing challenge with full keyboard and not a shortened one with fewer letters that might more easily give a clue about the word.
Like, there are words for instance I know I won’t remember them after a few days/weeks even though they appear as watered.
And why do they appear as watered? Because sometimes, when not typing but given multiple choices, we rely on intuition rather than knowledge.
I think that when watered, words should have like a mandatory full typing challenge after a few days so that we don’t rely on intuition or luck that can be involved in multiple choices, and difficult words a weekly full typing show up until like for instance 7 times in a row (arbitrary) we don’t make any typing mistake.
It’s not that difficult to code and I’m sure it would greatly improve and strengthen our memory (although I’m aware that some people like the “no typing” courses but well, it’s their problem then 
).
Memrise isn’t perfect, but they do use actual data to develop their watering schedule and determine when a multiple choice test will be more effective than a typing test for learning.
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It’s not about being perfect, it is about improving.
And the topic is about words being considered as watered when we personally know they aren’t for us… So what I was proposing was a way to be ensured that words supposed to be watered really are and not be relying on intuition