Deleted/old answers still appearing in tests

Many thanks! Will do.

The image also appeared with Lark (I think).

And there is a “broken link” no picture offered with Condor!

So have a look at those too, if you wouldn’t mind.

PS I also deleted the word completely and added “temp” and it still presented the image!

May I suggest you do an auto_grow aka learn to make testing quicker. :wink:

This is worth mentioning to everybody. My script only works for things that are written in text. If there are images or audio, it will skip that part.

@DW7 The issue should be fixed for you. Note that when you change a part of a word, it will only refresh the alternate answers that will exist for questions that ask for that part of the word. In your database you have two columns. One shows a picture of an animal, the other the name of the animal. When you took my advice, you changed the name of the animal. That would have changed the alternate answers for any questions that show a picture of an animal and you need to choose the name of the animal from a list. Not the other way around. If you are asked to choose from a list of pictures and some of the pictures are wrong (which is your problem), then you will need to change something in the pictures column of the word. I fixed your issue by deleting the images for the problematic animals and then re-uploading them. That caused Memrise to refresh the pictures that it uses in your sessions.

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Many thanks @DrewSSP for not only fixing it but explaining how to do it in future.

I must admit, I was coming to the same conclusion, namely to save the image, delete it and redo it.

Did you find the blank photo image as well?

I’ll have a trial and let you know!

PS

No picture of fighter, thanks!

But

Emu, Cormorant, Crow, Budgerigar and Cassowary
in level two (when fully planted) showed me the blank link - (which I have now ‘corrected’ thanks to your training).

@DrewSSP have the Admins mentioned creating a feature like reset or refresh database? Because it is clearly needed. Like I said earlier I don’t know much about code so I’m not sure how to use your script. But the hard way to do it seem to be deleting words with issues and reentering them into the database entirely. Since I have already done that I’m not having issues anymore. Still it would be nice if a mod or admin mentioned if it was in the works at least since it seems to be causing a lot of bugs in courses.

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@Angelbratt I don’t believe anybody has. Communication from the Memrise team is somewhat lacking and has been for a long time. If anybody has heard something from the team, please do chime in!

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I wonder if somebody would like to add this “reset button” suggestion to this thread, please:

Cc @Angelbratt

@DrewSSP, I think it would be really helpful if you documented your “script” and “delete, save and reload” solutions to “How to eliminate incorrect answers that are no longer visible in the database” (or other suitable title) in this area, if you wouldn’t mind.

http://community.memrise.com/c/community-hub/course-creator-corner

Perhaps it could be added to @Angelbratt’s thread she has already started:

Angelbratt, would you approve a different title including "How to . . " at the start?

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i did not understand what angelbratt wanted (and deleting entries and re-writing them does not help). There is a thread with user scripts…

Ahh, thanks! That totally answers my question.

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I wonder if the easiest way to force Memrise to reevaluate entries is for each lesson, add a blank entry, save, delete entry again.

Of course anything is possible, but that specific action would go against my findings. As I said, each word is basically blind to anything that you do elsewhere in the database. It doesn’t matter what level, course, or database a word is in. If you want to fix the phantom answers in a word, you will have to mess around with that specific word.

@DrewSSP: Thank you so very much for sharing your script! :palm_tree:

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and memrise gives us the cadeau of even more phantom entries! now, after ruining my eyes to comply with the latest memrise requirements (which are as always in dictatorship manner, i.e. “take it or leave it”), my databases are full with phantom entries.

@Hydroptere ~ I have to admit this fear was my initial gut reaction when I read the news from @BenWhately about the change in comma formats. I purposely did not touch any of my courses because of this fear. But if changes have effected (affected ?) your courses, then one would imagine they would do so with similar changes to the underlying Memrise-official course databases whenever they made their changes. If they didn’t, then perhaps they know a way to get rid of them (without using @DrewSSP’s script). If that is the case, then maybe they should share how they did it. If their databases were not effected (affected ?) but ours are, then why is this ?

my head is spinning… i just finished “updating” two courses of mine. It really crosses my mind to delete the others, but when I see that i have thousands of items to review in them, and remember myself that those words will vanish into the night of oblivion if i dont repeat them…

I don’t expect an answer from memrise … profficient at creating problems to others and not addressing those problems

and where is the script??? (as said, my head is spinning)

Thanks for all of the information in this thread. I am having this problem as well. Now I at least have a possible solution to try.

The script is located here: https://github.com/iamwillow/delete_phantom_answers

You have to know the basics of computer programming to run it. You’ll need to have Python on your computer as well as a few Python libraries that you can install with Pip.

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that looks like too much work. I’ll drop it. Thanks, Willow!

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I agree with you Hydroptere “my head is spinning” and thanks @iamwillow but I have no idea how to action scripts and feel it’s safer to leave alone.

I will continue to review all the courses I support and spot the effect. Thankfully I have generally put alternatives in as hidden alternatives, so it will work anyway.

unfortunately the phantom entries (both the edited and deleted categories) keep coming up in tests… and the user is lost… with all this editing around the new separators, courses are full of phantoms…

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