I just started this course and am having trouble with Level 2 anderer, andere, anderes other, different (m,f,n). the only correct answer it will accept is typing all three (anderer, andere, anderes) and not any of them individually.
Thanks for the help…
Holff
Hi,
Not even sure to be on the right section here as I have a question rathen than an answer. I have just started this course but i am having problems with it: when the reply requires you to pick from the selection it marks correct answers as incorrect and therefore I cannot progress. I am including an example below
das Gut, -"er das is green and the rest comes up as red. Same happens with another word.
Any chance of help on this?
Thanks in advance
Hello 1Nyla, can you give the url (the browser internet address) for the course that you are studying, so that we can be sure you are referring to the course covered by this forum?
In the example you gave of “das Gut”, on what level of the course is that?
In case anyone reading this thread is looking for alternatives, a few days ago Lingvist.com launched their course to learn German from English. Lingvist learns about your ability as you go along, so that it can adapt the vocabulary it asks you to learn to your level. It also involves learning vocabulary in the context of sentences, which I think is a better approach than simply memorizing isolated words. I have been using Lingvist for the last few days, and find it great so far. (My only quibble is that they have too much emphasis on learning the Präteritum, which I don’t think is very useful to me.)
I think I will now stop using Memrise altogether. Probably the only thing I will miss is having to the identify the gender of nouns when reviewing.
Thanks or answering! The word I gave as an example is part of the first fifty on the list, I have just started the course but i am also following the other Memrise German courses.
I picked this course because I was looking for accurate typing to try and learn ‘properly’ but it is quite strange to give you another example :
the only translation accepted for ‘after’ is ‘nach’ space (space+space’dat’no space) ie nach ( + dat)
This means that in practice as well as remembering correct spelling i have to remember things like brackets and space or not! All very bewildering.
Thanks again for trying to help.
1Nyla, unfortunately I do not think that there is an active forum for the course you have just started to study. Sometime has tried to create a discussion for the course, but does not seem to have achieved any response. See: [Course Forum] 5000 words sorted by frequency (strict typing)
Memrise has gone through some changes recently in the way that it handles test answers - one particular major change is that it no longer accepts commas as separators, and all existing commas in courses which were intended to be separators have to be changed to semicolons. Potentially some of these changes have affected the operation of the ‘strict typing’ option which can be set for a course and also the way that parentheses in the answer are interpreted.
There many of the user-created courses and ‘in limbo’ now and only the actively-maintained courses are working properly. However, I can’t personally comment on the “5000 words sorted by frequency (strict typing)” course, since I have only looked at it superficially.
My guess is that the first problem you reported das Gut, -"er is related to the comma issue and that the second problem nach ( + dat) is an issue related to parentheses plus a ‘strict typing’ requirement for spaces to be typed the same as the specified answer. However, only a contributor to this course would be able to fix this.
Possibly @hung-phan of Memrise will be able to confirm that this is not a Memrise bug.
I think that your only option is to put up with the idiosynchracies of this course, or switch to another course.
Sorry not to have been able to help you further!
Dear misxifRM,
Thank you for taking the trouble to explain as clearly as you have. I am trying to soldier on but finding it increasingly frustrating, the only I have found so far is to delete manually the words and expressions pausing problem. I will probably end up switching to another course.
Thanks again for your help. I think Memrise is a great facility and inducement to learning
Best wishes
Hello 1Nyla,
I was curious, so I just did a test myself of learning the second level of this course, to take a look at the nach example.
In my case, it was completely indifferent to where I put the spaces after the first parenthesis. I got the following results:
nach(+dat) FAIL
nach (+ dat) PASS
nach (+dat) PASS
I was using the course in the browser version, from a computer (ie, not a mobile app).
Therefore, on this limited test, I was not able to reproduce your second problem.
Regarding the first problem, this seems to definitely be the comma issue. (I tested with the example die Gesellschaft, -en.) In the typing tests, entering the comma after the word works correctly, but using the semicolon for example, does not. However, in the screen where the learner is asked to ‘copy’ the German and there is automatic feedback as soon as a single letter is typed incorrectly, the comma is rejected - and I could not find what would be accepted. I would say that this is because the comma is not now a valid separator. However, since Memrise now is meant to assume that a comma is part of the main answer (as it would be in a complete sentence which includes commas), I am surprised that it doesn’t accept it when typed in the copy screen.
I don’t think that the course will work properly until the comma is replaced by a semicolon. (The same issue applies to the version of the 5000 German Words course covered by this forum.)
PS: I am not a representative in any way of Memrise. I am just a user, like you.
Sorry 1Nyla, I have now being able to reproduce your second problem as well.
This comes in the ‘Copy’ screen only. The commas, parentheses and ‘+’ symbols are rejected when typed (turning the answer red), unless you type a space before them.
In the case of die Gesellschaft, -en, I was also able to get it to accept the answer by typing a space before the comma.
This feels to me like a Memrise bug.
@hung-phan, can you comment?
Hi again,
I worked out you were also a user which is why I am very grateful for the time and trouble you took. I have since switched to another 5000 words course which works well and have just spend a bit of time getting myself up to the same level.
I am doing a variety of German courses just for fun. I am ashamed to say I am French from the part of France which borders with Germany but I never showed any interest in learning German and I now regret it… better late than never.
Salut Nyla,
C’est bien d’avoir quelqu’un français qui veut apprendre la langue du voisin ! Jugeant par votre niveau d’anglais, je suis certain que vous n’aurez aucun problème à maitriser encore une langue.
Je dirais que la valeur de ces cours de cinq mille mots est un peu ‘douteuse’. Je viens de terminer la phase d’apprentissage d’un de ces cours, mais il devient presque impossible de maintenir sous contrôle la liste des mots à reviser quand on a autant de mots accumulés.
Robert
Salut Robert,
Oui en effet, au bout d’un moment on est obligé de passer plus de temps à réviser qu’autre chose. Tant pis! C’est un bon exercice pour le cerveau.
Bonne continuation!
Nyla
Need to fix das Wort plural. It is shown on identical screens, but is -e in some places and -er in others. Also, distinguish the two Delikatessen words with (1) and (2) so I can tell whether it wants Feinkostgeschaft or Delikatessengeschaft.
Ok, Wort plurals are not exactly identical, just too confusing for me I guess. I don’t find the definition text as useful as discussions I have seen on the Web but I guess I will adapt.
Hey, what does ‘der Affe -n -n’ mean? Why are there two endings? This is the first time I have run into this. Is there anywhere to look up these kinds of course-related idiosyncrasies?
@gdhurst - Are you familiar with n-declensions? Some singular masculine nouns take an “n” at the end when they’re not in the nominative case. Der Affe is in this category, so the entry is shown with -n twice—once for the n-declension, and again for the plural.
Nominative: der Affe
Accusative: den Affen
Dative: dem Affen
Genitive: des Affen
Plural (all cases): die Affen
Hello, I’m new to this course but I did the 1000 words of German recently.
My question is, Is this course all in alphabetical order?
Thanks.
@a101325 - There are at least three courses of 5000 German words…
This one, 5000 German Words (top 87%) by Paul_Wilson is in alphabetical order for about 165 levels, has one lesson with numbers, and then appears to add a few dozen words in alphabetical order, and then a few dozen more in alphabetical order, etc.
Another one, 5000 German Words (top 87%) sorted by frequency by ponchoosh is sorted by frequency.
And a third, 5000 German Words sorted by frequency (strict typing) by puffino is not only sorted by frequency, but also requires strict typing.
Hi guys, I’m getting to level 49 on this course (5000 words sorted by frequency (strict typing) by puffino) and the words are no longer pronounced (aka, there’s no audio file). Can someone confirm that this is going to be the case for all of the future levels? I am starting to realize that I memorize it better if I listen to the word as well as write it.
Most of those courses don’t have audio throughout most of the course.