File:Woman on Spokane, Nov. 1929.jpg

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These are United States photos from the flickr "found photos" collection recently discussed in the Village Pump. The assumption is that these are mostly personal (family) photos never published anywhere else before they were scanned and published in the flickr collection. So, for example for File:Catherine Budy, March 13, 1938.jpg, {{PD-US-no notice}} wouldn't be applicable as this template relies on publication "in the United States between 1928 and 1977, inclusive, without a copyright notice". Or another example: File:Two women with a car, 11-1936.jpg. If we can assume that this is a personal photograph that was never published before (and it very much loooks like that) and the first publication was in the flickr "found photos" collection (thus, "2003 or later"), then per COM:HIRTLE, I assume it's protected for "95 years from publication OR 120 years from creation, whichever expires first". In this case of a 1936 photo, that would be 2056 (1936 + 120). As the pictures are now published (on flickr), I'm using the Hirtle entries for published works, not for unpublished ones, for my argument. I will note that RAN has argued, also in other discussions, that "USA case law has sided with the concept that images found in the wild have been made public once they leave the custody of the creator", but I haven't seen him back that claim up with references, and I haven't found it in our Commons documentation. To me, assuming "publication" as soon as a photograph "leaves the custody" of the photographer (like: photographer takes photo, gives it to a family where it then rests in the family album) at least doesn't seem to be consistent with our usual assumptions regarding "publication". But I would be happy to accept this with reliable sources, we also then would need to adapt COM:HIRTLE and similar documentation pages, probably.
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English: Woman in backyard of 818 E. 26th Avenue, Spokane, WA, USA, Nov. 1929.
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Source https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/53222364562/
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Camera location47° 37′ 52.1″ N, 117° 23′ 51.08″ W Kartographer map based on OpenStreetMap.View this and other nearby images on: OpenStreetMapinfo

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This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published in the United States between 1928 and 1977, inclusive, without a copyright notice. For further explanation, see Commons:Hirtle chart as well as a detailed definition of "publication" for public art. Note that it may still be copyrighted in jurisdictions that do not apply the rule of the shorter term for US works (depending on the date of the author's death), such as Canada (50 p.m.a.), Mainland China (50 p.m.a., not Hong Kong or Macao), Germany (70 p.m.a.), Mexico (100 p.m.a.), Switzerland (70 p.m.a.), and other countries with individual treaties.

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current21:34, 10 November 2023Thumbnail for version as of 21:34, 10 November 20236,418 × 8,643 (23.91 MB)Pigsonthewing (talk | contribs)Reverted to version as of 21:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC) misclick
21:32, 10 November 2023Thumbnail for version as of 21:32, 10 November 20235,180 × 7,237 (17.71 MB)Pigsonthewing (talk | contribs)Cropped 19 % horizontally, 16 % vertically using CropTool with lossless mode.
21:30, 10 November 2023Thumbnail for version as of 21:30, 10 November 20236,418 × 8,643 (23.91 MB)Pigsonthewing (talk | contribs)Reverted to version as of 11:57, 1 November 2023 (UTC) Preserving inscription. I will make a separate crop
20:40, 1 November 2023Thumbnail for version as of 20:40, 1 November 20235,179 × 7,443 (18.08 MB)Yann (talk | contribs)Cropped 19 % horizontally, 14 % vertically using CropTool with lossless mode.
11:57, 1 November 2023Thumbnail for version as of 11:57, 1 November 20236,418 × 8,643 (23.91 MB)Yann (talk | contribs){{Information |Description={{en|Woman on 818 E. Hath(?) Avenue, Spokane, Nov. 1929.}} |Source=https://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/53222364562/ |Date=1929-11 |Author={{unknown}} |Permission={{orphan work}} |other_versions= }} == {{int:license-header}} == {{PD-US-no notice}}

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